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Ravynmagi  4 stars
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Oh, the new task manager is very cool too. I like how they put CPU usage, disk usage, and network usage together in three simple columns. And the application history lets you seem the cumulative impact apps are having over time.
Ravynmagi  4 stars
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Well installed and played with Windows 8 a little bit. This isn't even beta stage yet, it's releasing about a year from now. And so obviously it's pretty rough right now.

I mentioned the Windows key toggles the two UI's. I was wrong about that. The Windows key seems to toggle the Start screen and the last app you were in. There is a "Desktop" tile that takes you to the old UI and so you could toggle back and forth with the Windows key after clicking that Desktop tile.

I was also under the impression I didn't have to use the Metro UI if I didn't want to. That is not the case, there is no way avoiding it. The traditional Start menu is gone. So even if you go to the desktop and the classic UI and click Start, that returns you to the Metro UI. But you can start apps pinned to your Taskbar or shortcuts on your desktop without having to use the Metro Start screen.

Metro UI is working well enough with the keyboard and mouse though. It's a wide horizontal scrolling screen and you can use the mouse wheel to scroll through that or use page up and down on the keyboard.

Sample Metro apps constantly freezing up.

During the keynote they showed a way of rescaling the tiles in Metro. I can't seem to find that setting on this Dev Preview though, so I'm guessing they were using something a bit further along or I'm blind (could be the latter).
Ravynmagi  4 stars
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Metro apps are working now after a couple reboots.
Ravynmagi  4 stars
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Weird things I've learned...

* Shutdown/Restart
This is kinda hidden under Start, Settings. I guess they figure people will just use their power button instead.

* Search/Apps
Searching and Apps are together. You want to search for something, just starting typing on the keyboard and Metro immediately takes you to the Search screen. If you just want to see all your apps, go to Start, Search. From here you can also pin apps to the Start Page if they aren't already there.

* Removing Pinned Pages in IE 10.
Pinning is easy in IE, unpinning is oddly weird. Go to Start, Search. You'll see http:// addresses listed amongst your apps. There is the option to unpin, but that won't unpin it from IE, instead click remove. Now it's unpinned from IE.

* Restore old Start menu
Go to regedit (just type regedit and search will find the app for you).
Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
Change RPEnabled from "1" to "0"

And to re-enable the Metro Start again, just change back to "1".
Ravynmagi  4 stars
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/microsofts-metro-style-ie-10-has-seen-the-future-and-its-plug/

Interesting decision by Microsoft. The Metro Internet Explorer will not support plug-ins. No Flash and surprisingly not even Silverlight. Microsoft says HTML5 is good enough and not having plug ins will keep the browser speedy and maintain battery life (probably has a point there).

Fortunately you aren't SOL. If you use IE from the Desktop, you can use plugins there. And other browsers work and support plugins too. So you won't be completely Flashless like some other platform.
Tai-Daishar_MT  2 stars
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I am in favor of open web standards over proprietary systems so I like this change. I would also think MS would provide some means of migrating Silverlight apps to those developers that have supported the technology. Those are the guys I feel a little bad for, MS courts them to abandon Flash only to abandon them a few years later. The times they are a changin'

 

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Ookane  1 star
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Tai-Daishar_MT posted:

I am in favor of open web standards over proprietary systems so I like this change. I would also think MS would provide some means of migrating Silverlight apps to those developers that have supported the technology. Those are the guys I feel a little bad for, MS courts them to abandon Flash only to abandon them a few years later. The times they are a changin'



True, but (for now at least) you can still use Silverlight to produce things for Windows Phone, as well as apps for Metro. From what I understand, porting from SL to HTML5 or JavaScript is not very hard either.

 

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Ravynmagi  4 stars
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Been using this on a Dell laptop. Now gonna put this on my main computer. I got a Windows 7 and Windows XP partitions. I forgot I still had XP on this machine, so will replace that with Windows 8 now.

Drive has been imaged and backed up.
Prayers to tech gods sent.
Windows 8 copied to USB drive.
Here I go...
Ravynmagi  4 stars
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Well I tried. For some odd reason Windows 8 could not load the Intel RAID drivers to see my SSD drives (Windows 7 had no issue with this).
Jeanysgimp
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Ravynmagi posted:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/microsofts-metro-style-ie-10-has-seen-the-future-and-its-plug/


Interesting decision by Microsoft. The Metro Internet Explorer will not support plug-ins. No Flash and surprisingly not even Silverlight. Microsoft says HTML5 is good enough and not having plug ins will keep the browser speedy and maintain battery life (probably has a point there).


Fortunately you aren't SOL. If you use IE from the Desktop, you can use plugins there. And other browsers work and support plugins too. So you won't be completely Flashless like some other platform.



What do you mean by Metro IE will not support plug ins, but if you use IE from the desktop plug ins work. Sorry, I don't know anything about Windows 8.


What exactly is the difference between Metro IE and the original IE?

 

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