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AzureTyger  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-4-1 15:49:04
Seething199 posted:

AzureTyger posted:

I am happy to vote for Obama again. The worse you can say about him is that he largely maintained the status quo. At least he didn't cause the kind of mayhem to our country that Bush did. And I think his handling of the depression was a lot better than four more years of tax cuts and deregulation would have been.



this makes minimal sense. bush caused mayhem, obama continued all of bush's policies. and he extended all of bush's tax cuts. when the status quo is a train wreck, how is it acceptable to maintain the status quo?



I am not saying he maintained the status quo on everything, just that where you can criticize him it is because he maintained it. He failed to make labor reforms while the democrats were in charge but he at least didn't make it worse with more supply side nonsense, which would almost certainly be the "plan" of any Republican, including Mr. Ayn Rand. He also failed to end the Bush tax cuts for the rich, although I am not sure how much you can blame that on Obama when Republicans threatened universal filibustering.

The HCR bill was a shadow of what it could have been, but at least we moved a baby step forward. He pushed for the consumer financial protection burea and we got that. He ended the Iraq War. He brought closure to the OBL era. He did not get us out of Afghanistan, but on the other hand he handled the American response to Arab Spring deftly. He ended DADT, another baby step, but a good one. His stimulus helped the economy stay afloat even if it didn't go far enough. He also put an end to the Republican Bush era stacking of the Fedeal judiciary with whackadoodle archconservatives, although that one was a given. (And with Ginsburg and Kennedy likely to drop dead or retire in the next 4 years, the condition of the federal judiciary is a massive red alert for the potential to create a conservative dominated Supreme Court for a generation).

He hasn't ended the cozy relationship between Financial elites and Federal economic policy, my biggest problem with his administration and possibly the one area where Paul could be an improvement.

All in all though there is not a single Republican who wouldn't have done far worse and probably increased the damage. And among those Paul's economic platform is even more extreme and crazy in almost every respect.

 

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GrilledCheez  4 stars
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AzureTyger posted:

I am not saying he maintained the status quo on everything, just that where you can criticize him it is because he maintained it.



I think ti's funny that you said that then criticized all his "accomplishments." Why is it enlightened when dems excuse failure because reps suck but it's awful when reps excuse failure because dems suck?

 

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Mastara  4 stars
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Its all the same thats the thing with the party system. They both point and shout failures at one another. It gets us no where. Its a failed system IMO. Both parties are part of the same hypocrisy.

 

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Shimatta33  1 star
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Registered: 2003-11-19 23:55:28
Maybe I'm just young, but has there ever been a more depressing pool of potential leadership for America? Seriously...both parties are beyond worthless. They're downright destructive. Obama is easily worse than Bush in my book because as was said earlier with Bush you knew what you were getting. Obama just carried on everything Bush did and continued running us into the ground.

 

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Mastara  4 stars
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Democrats have to do that, so they can blame anything they do that fails on the republicans. The republicans are a party of no ideas, while the democrats are a party of bad ideas. Thats the state of it now.

 

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