No. Nothing about the Ramones is nuanced, least of all their borrowing. Borrowing from a bunch of different people is not nuanced.


The thing that makes the Ramones a great band is their directness. They weren't embarassed to play the same three chords over and over again. It rocked and that was enough for them.

You simply cannot get out of your own way.

The Ramones music (as in the actual music, the guitar work) is extremely nuanced. Shades of Motown, The Beach Boys, Doo Wop, Pop and Blues blended together into a cohesive whole.......you don't call that nuanced?

All this bullshit you talk about borrowing.... Once again you fail to grasp the heart of the matter.

Look up nuance and learn what the word means. Then STFU Noob!

 

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The closest thing to a synonym to nuanced is subtle. There is not much subtle about the Ramones.

 

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Here is a list of rock guitarists that I can name in 20 seconds without even thinking about it who were more "nuanced" than Johnny Ramone.

Pete Townsend - The Who (around well before the Ramones)
David Gilmour - Pink Floyd (around well before the Ramones)
Jimmy Paige - Led Zeppelin (around well before the Ramones)
Lindsey Buckingham - Fleetwood Mac (around well before the Ramones)
Alex Lifeson - Rush (around well before the Ramones)

 

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Nuance is more nuanced than that, however just because the Ramones are simple and direct does not mean there are not multiple musical subtleties. So far we have established that your understanding of the words nuanced and subtle are as imperfect as your understanding of the Ramones.

Or perhaps one leads to the other.

You are attributing qualities of intricacy and complication to nuance and subtle which are not necessarily valid, failing to fully understand the "nuances" of either word. Then you fail to grasp The Ramones on anything but the simplest of levels. Indeed, the amount of ironic juxtapositions here are numerous.

So in conclusion your English needs work, and you need some Rock and Roll lessons. You're in luck...

I can handle both of those for you.

 

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If I want some mainstream radio baby list of run of the mill blues guitarists I will let you know Sparky. Has anyone gone on record for any one of those pedestrian heroes saying that they reinvented the sound of the electric guitar, and how it is played?

Let me answer that for you. No. Paige might come close....but the answer is still no.

And Lindsey Buckingham? /points and laughs........ Fleetwood Mac?

STFU when men are talking wench.

 

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The question was about "nuanced" guitar playing.

Page is on the list because his riffs were literally living breathing things of their own.

Townsend is on that list because he can make fcuking statues weep at the beauty of what he's playing.

Gilmour is on that list because his music is truly transcendent and he can make Townsend's statues cry with the sadness of his music.

Lifeson is on that list because of technical perfection and his ability to nail the performance dead on the spot like some Julliard nerd, while not actually being one.

As for Buckingham, he's on the list because every time he stepped on stage he brought THIS credibility to his performance.

 

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their name was infulenced by paul ramone, aka paul mccartney.

fact.


edit:
and richard hell and the voidoids had a lot to do with the ramones actual style also, since, you know, they invented that sound before the ramones

 

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Might want to check your facts Sparky. The Ramones pre-date the Voidoids by 3 years. Doh!

And Cawlin, puleese. Fleetwood Mac?

 

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