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Grymlo  Posts: 415
Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
GrilledCheez posted:
Let me ask you this. If they had run in and shot him without identifying themselves, or asking him to lower his weapon, or confronting him verbally at all, what do you think they would have put in their reports, and told the press?
Teachers locked classroom doors and turned off lights, and some frightened students dove under their desks. They could hear police charge down the hallway and shout for Gonzalez to drop the weapon, followed by several shots.
Interim Police Chief Orlando Rodriguez said the teen was pointing the weapon at officers and "had plenty of opportunities to lower the gun and listen to the officers' orders, and he didn't want to."
IDK man, those 2 statements above seem to go hand in hand with how this played out. Kid refused to drop gun after being told to.
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GrilledCheez  Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
Yossarian_42 posted:
So now you have to create both an elaborate scenario and a conspiracy in order to discredit the police.
I am not discrediting anyone. I imagine it happened just like the police said. But it is a fact that the police kill people without justification all the time and then get away with it by manipulating the records that they control and the trust that they are almost universally granted in this country. That is a fact. So being sure this is justified based solely on police testimony of the confrontation is retarded. That is also a fact.
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Grymlo Posts: 415
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
So the teachers are in on this conspiracy?
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
Grymlo posted:
GrilledCheez posted:
Let me ask you this. If they had run in and shot him without identifying themselves, or asking him to lower his weapon, or confronting him verbally at all, what do you think they would have put in their reports, and told the press?
Teachers locked classroom doors and turned off lights, and some frightened students dove under their desks. They could hear police charge down the hallway and shout for Gonzalez to drop the weapon, followed by several shots.
Interim Police Chief Orlando Rodriguez said the teen was pointing the weapon at officers and "had plenty of opportunities to lower the gun and listen to the officers' orders, and he didn't want to."
IDK man, those 2 statements above seem to go hand in hand with how this played out. Kid refused to drop gun after being told to.
Yeah, you're right.
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cherrim  Posts: 68
Registered: 2003-4-6 21:57:39
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
GrilledCheez posted:
...being sure this is justified based solely on police testimony of the confrontation is retarded. That is also a fact.
what other evidence do we have?
the possibility of incomplete information lurks behind every judgment but it doesn't keep us from making decisions based on the information we do have. decisions which can be altered if new information crops up.
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Elocism  Title: Pseudonym
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Registered: 2002-5-3 01:50:00
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Date Posted:
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
sounds to me like he wanted people to think he had a real gun
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
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Date Posted:
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
I hadn't noticed that teachers reported hearing the officers shouting to drop the gun.
I just get frustrated when police officers are automatically believed. I do think the majority of officer shootings are justified though.
I do think this is unfortunate though. Kids are stupid.
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cherrim Posts: 68
Registered: 2003-4-6 21:57:39
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
It is very unfortunate, and kids are stupid.
The tragedy lies in the fact that in another few years he might not have been so stupid. That age is particularly susceptible to dire consequences since you have access to adult actions without the assistance of much adult judgment.
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Date Posted:
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
This is why they carry tazers. Tazers are supposed to be a first choice in lieu of deadly force.
I can remember thirty years ago when the public would have been outraged at the shooting of a child with a toy. And the cop who murdered him wouls have been so distraught that he would have probably ended his career.
Now a days it seems this type of thing has become so common place that peoples first reaction is to defend the child murderer and excuse it away.
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cherrim Posts: 68
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Date Posted:
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Texas police kill 8th-grader carrying pellet gun |
a tazer will not keep someone pointing a real gun at you from killing you.
haven't you ever heard that age-old expression, "never bring a tazer to a gun fight"?
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