I think that people who choose celibacy as a lifestyle are fricken idiots. A healthy person who is capable of sexual intercourse who chooses not to do so ever....is insane. Not hyperbole, clinically mentally deranged. IMO of course.

Now, a person who chooses to restrict their sexual outlet to a single other person forever.....hmmm? Not quite insane, but pretty fricken close. It's not gonna happen.

I don't care how much you love them, how much you respect, adore, cherish, and value them. Not gonna happen. It might last for 20 years, maybe longer, but unless you die, have your sexuality repressed to a clinically insane level, or get too sick to boink before the limit hits.....you are going to cheat or you are going to be so upset that you didn't cheat when you could have, you might as well have done it because you and your partner would be better off.

Humans are sexual creatures. We don't have a mating season, we have sexual urges from the day we are born till the day we die. The thrill of the encounter is directly proportional to it's uniqueness. That isn't to say it's the best sex when it's the first time. It's not the culmination and the intercourse that is the payoff, it's the leading up to and the getting there.

Of course, partnership and being in love aren't all about sex. The sex is just a part of such a pairing. The ties that bind life partners are much more complex than the simple biological action of intercourse. Having a partner can be fulfilling on levels far beyond biological urges. So why do so many people who have seemingly wonderful partnerships fuck them up by cheating? Because biological urges are governed by parts of the brain we have no control over. That isn't a cop out to excuse being a dick and screwing over your love. It's just reality.

Somehow, we humans have socially conditioned ourselves to hate our biology and we attempt to repress it so we can "be happy". That's insane. It's like growing up on a planet where the "norm" is to never take a shit after the age of 30. Doing so is an awful thing and means you don't love anyone and you are a selfish prick. Of course, everyone on the planet dies soon after turning 30, in an explosion of fecal matter....but hey, at least they did the "right thing". Actually, very few would die, and most would just go shit where no one could see them and lie about it.

Which is exactly what happens now with sex on this planet. Insane.

I'm tracking with you , right up to your exploding shit analogy and then I think you took a communication wrong turn.

 

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Most of us have complete control over our bioligical urges. How often do people get a gun and kill everybody? Rarely.. Anger and rage and a desire to kill are biological urges - most of us have complete control over it.

How often do people rape others? Apparently its in the %20 of all people get raped range.. Which sadly is high, but the rest of us control it just fine.

Are you a proponent of people following any insinctual urge? Or just the ones you agree with? Why block any urge?

Accordng to you the world ucks because people repress their urges.

I just felt like throwing that in at the end cause I felt like talking about exploding shit. I'm in a mood today. I got laid last night.

Eodoll, I would recommend you study Carl Jungs theories on integration and the shadow. The answers to those questions are part of depth psychology.

Here are a couple quick links. I just googled them and scanned them for glaring in inaccuracies. Integration

Shadow This shadow is what I perceive Ptilk speaking about as "unknowns happening to us."

From wikipedia link above:

We begin to travel [up] through the healing spirals...straight up'. Here the struggle is to retain awareness of the shadow, but not identification with it. 'Non-identification demands considerable moral effort...prevents a descent into that darkness'; but though 'the conscious mind is liable to be submerged at any moment in the unconscious... understanding acts like a life-saver. It integrates the unconscious' - reincorporates the shadow into the personality, producing a stronger, wider consciousness than before. 'Assimilation of the shadow gives a man body, so to speak', and provides thereby a launching-pad for further individuation. 'The integration of the shadow, or the realisation of the personal unconscious, marks the first stage of the analytic process...without it a recognition of anima and animus is impossible'.

 

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Modeeb, have you tead prometheus rising? Its available online for free... I think the writer takes some concepts of jung and makes it his own.

It looks interesting but confusing , Eodoll.
Prometheus Rising

I am immersed in 3 books on experimental fiction and one on sexual research at this time.

 

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Google for " prometheus rising pdf" - its pretty interesting, ive never been able to finish it though because like many books of this kind it over generalizes and so it becomes boring.

I don't pass judgement, or disbelieve that your position is any less valid than someone who believes in monogamy. I don't see why you would largely misrepresent, ridicule and almost completely dismiss the opposing point of view though. Other than as a defense mechanism because you're not certain in your standing, despite saying it is so.

 

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The standard narrative (accepted evolutionary psychology or pair bonded for life) offers the thesis: Anything other than the standard narrative is deviant or not normal. I am offering the antithesis to this. I am expanding, not contracting. The standard narrative is too narrow. The synthesis of these two will advance science. This is the dialectic movement of knowledge.

 

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