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Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required [Locked]
Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 1,117 Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
You are going to have to start handing out drivers licenses for free then, otherwise it's a poll tax.
See my comment above about documentation. If you bring those three things with you to the poll, that's all you should need to get a voter id and register.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
Taliesihne posted: Ok, but you are going to have to start handing out drivers licenses for free then.
See my comment above about documentation. If you bring those three things with you to the poll, that's all you should need to get a voter id and register.
No, that's ass backwards thinking. Driver's licenses and passports are already acquired for other reasons and used for other reasons. The fact that they ALSO can be used to identify their holder for the sake of voter registration does not mean that they should suddenly be free. That's fkn ghetto 16th generation welfare thinking if I ever heard it dude.
Regarding the IDs, that's fine and yes I believe that's all that are required to get a driver's license and/or any other state-issued photo ID.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 1,117 Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
I'll try putting this a different way.
Voter Id's are now required to vote. Everyone is required to present them to vote. One form of ID for everyone.
To get a voter id, you must present your bc, your ss card and a piece of mail to prove you are who you say you are and live in the right area. If you have a current DL, that could also be used as a form of residency proof. Passports are irrelevant.
The DMV handles this, but is available in many more places then just the DMV and available at every poll station on election day.
Were I to support a voter id act, it would look like this.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
Taliesihne posted: I'll try putting this a different way.
Voter Id's are now required to vote. Everyone is required to present them to vote. One form of ID for everyone.
To get a voter id, you must present your bc, your ss card and a piece of mail to prove you are who you say you are and live in the right area.
The DMV handles this, but is available in many more places then just the DMV and available at every poll station on election day.
Were I to support a voter id act, it would look like this.
Seriously dude? You want to create a whole additional DMV?
A state issued photo ID is plenty to prove identity. If that's a driver's license it will have your address. If it's a passport, you need some sort of utility bill for your address. If you have no other state issued photo ID, then you can get a photo ID from your local DMV "free", with the usual requirements for getting that ID in terms of proving who you are. That ID will include your address, and if you need address updates because you move, you can get those for free.
There, done, solved, no additional government agency created, simple.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 1,117 Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
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I'm not advocating a new agency. I'm saying the DMV needs to step up it's availability to the public and be in more places.
And no, I don't think poll workers should have to hassle with different id's. One voter id for everyone. It's more secure - poll workers can just scan the cards to verify they are real and voila, you are off to voting. That means even us well to do white folk have to go to the DMV or the Poll and get a new ID only for voting. Kinda funny how you are suddenly against having to get a voter id yourself.
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Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
Corruption is why democrats are against voter ID
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 1,117 Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
Hell, with a standardized voter id system, you could do away with traditional polls. Just have voting machines set up everywhere that require the magstripe from your voter id to activate.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
Taliesihne posted: I'm not advocating a new agency. I'm saying the DMV needs to step up it's availability to the public and be in more places.
And no, I don't think poll workers should have to hassle with different id's. One voter id for everyone. It's more secure - poll workers can just scan the cards to verify they are real and voila, you are off to voting. That means even us well to do white folk have to go to the DMV or the Poll and get a new ID only for voting. Kinda funny how you are suddenly against having to get a voter id yourself.
From the department of redundancy department?
I'm against your stupid troll that you're throwing out there because you think the whole concept is about disenfranchising brown people and in reality aren't willing to admit that all these excuses for not having ID are just a sham to work the system.
No, we don't ALL need to have a separate ID for voting, there are three acceptable ones - a state issued driver's license, a valid US passport, or a non-driver photo ID (which looks just like a fkn driver's license FYI).
For the record, I actually bother to go and get my driver's license renewed, so I've already spent the time and effort doing it AND I've paid for it, unlike what I'd be asking those who have no other ID to do, so no I won't make another trip to the DMV to do it because it's not necessary.
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Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
Taliesihne posted: Hell, with a standardized voter id system, you could do away with traditional polls. Just have voting machines set up everywhere that require the magstripe from your voter id to activate.
LOL yah right - and you'd have people going around neighborhoods and collecting everyone's ID cards and driving to the poll machine to cast all of their votes for whoever they wanted.
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Taliesihne Title: Wind on the Deep Waters Posts: 1,117 Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
Date Posted:1/1/00 12:01amSubject:
Vote Early, Vote often, no I.D. required
So in other words, you are for voter id's for other people, just not for yourself.
Here in Va we vote with registration cards. They have to be renewed. I do this regularly.
I'm simply suggesting we update the process to a modern 'smart card' that could easily be scanned at polling places to verify it's authenticity. That way you don't have poll workers arbitrarily deciding what is good id and bad id. One id for everyone. No more fraud, streamlined voting process.
Not sure why you think this is a troll. But your absolute inflexibility to do anything personally different is pretty humorous.
Quote: LOL yah right - and you'd have people going around neighborhoods and collecting everyone's ID cards and driving to the poll machine to cast all of their votes for whoever they wanted.
Technology solves this problem pretty easily. You sound like the guy who doubted ATM's would work.
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