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Tych2  Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Scarne posted:
The are plenty of people living in smaller towns who just need to walk down the street to get to their polling place, but the nearest DMV is over an hour away by car. 
Life is a bitch sometimes. Call a cab. How many people are we talking about? Provide transportation?
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theredkay1  Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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Cawlin posted:
I fail to understand why this is such a big problem.
Do you support a poll tax? The requirement that in order to vote you must fork over some cash?
I dont think thats a good idea and I dont think thats constitutional. You seem to be in favor of this, although you may not have thought of it this way.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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theredkay1 posted:
Cawlin posted:
I fail to understand why this is such a big problem.
Do you support a poll tax? The requirement that in order to vote you must fork over some cash?
I dont think thats a good idea and I dont think thats constitutional. You seem to be in favor of this, although you may not have thought of it this way.
Well I support legal voting. There will be administrative costs associated with obtaining IDs to do so. If we have funding from elsewhere - then great, non-driving photo-IDs could be free.
As an example, I just googled the duration of non-driver's ID's and a link to a document from New York came up as the first hit.
http://www.mfy.org/wp-content/uploads/facts/IDCards-Non-Drivers.pdf
In NY, you can get a photo ID that lasts for 4-5 years for a fee of $10, and a long term one that lasts for 8-9 years for $14. There are also provisions for SSI recipients and senior citizens getting discounts to the fees.
So yes, I support a tax that amounts to a fee on the order of less than $2 a year which may be discounted or waived if you can prove financial hardship. It costs more than that to drive to a polling place for many Americans.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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If we don't care enough about voter fraud to supply voters with free voting ID cards we obviously don't care much about voter fraud.
A lot of the right's hard-on for "voter ID" is really just political calculation. They know that lazy people who may be unlikely to go out of their way to get an ID so they can vote, especially if it costs them money, are more likely to vote for Dems. People like Paul cheer anything that makes it harder for these people to vote.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Yukishiro1 posted:
If we don't care enough about voter fraud to supply voters with free voting ID cards we obviously don't care much about voter fraud.
A lot of the right's hard-on for "voter ID" is really just political calculation. They know that lazy people who may be unlikely to go out of their way to get an ID so they can vote, especially if it costs them money, are more likely to vote for Dems. People like Paul cheer anything that makes it harder for these people to vote.
Everyone knows this about the (D)em base, though I'm not really sure why this is still a problem.
Again, I'd support waiving the fees. A great deal of people would already have a driver's license anyway and pay that fee.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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The other thing about voting fraud that is so odd is that if we really cared about voting fraud as a nation we wouldn't let 95% of our polling stations be run by random clueless old people who probably can't even count to 10 without forgetting what number they are on.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Yukishiro1 posted:
The other thing about voting fraud that is so odd is that if we really cared about voting fraud as a nation we wouldn't let 95% of our polling stations be run by random clueless old people who probably can't even count to 10 without forgetting what number they are on.
You've got a point there.
I'm pretty sure that there is some absurd government waste and/or so-called campaign contributions that could be redirected to shore up the whole process quite a bit without raising taxes on the whole nation.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Tych2 posted:
There will always be excuses. You have to start somewhere.
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Scarne Title: Capo di Scientifico
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Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
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Tych2 posted:
Tych2 posted:
There will always be excuses. You have to start somewhere.
Somewhere like the Constitution which has been amended to say voting can't have any "poll taxes".
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Use the ID for other things and tada it's no longer a polling tax See how easy that was?
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