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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Tych2 posted:



I don't know a single person that doesn't try and pay the lowest amount legally possible. If you say otherwise you are a lair.

If they were trying to pay more taxes, they probably wouldn't need to hire you, now, would they?

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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Scarne  4 stars
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

Mitt Romney posted:

America is broken, our deficit is out of control, the answer isn't to raise taxes, it's to send your money to churches instead of the government.



So we should tax the middle class more to make up for church deductions?


Churches are more corrupt than the government. Why would I send my money to them?

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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There is absolutely no reason for churches to have tax free status, or for donations to them to be tax deductible.
Bobvillas  3 stars
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I am not sure this matters.

I look for every opportunity legally to keep the most money in my pocket.

Charitable contributions where I feel I have more control over, I give what I feel I can and should.

Churches asking for a tithe are not equatable to taxes and loopholes. At least I am not seeing the connection.

One is mandatory and one is based on your beliefs/choice.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

I'm just thinking it's a bit disingenuous to squirm out of your obligations to a entity you want to lead.


How did he "squirm" out of his obligation?

Are you saying the tax deductions he used were illegitimate?

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Bobvillas posted:

I am not sure this matters.

I look for every opportunity legally to keep the most money in my pocket.

Charitable contributions where I feel I have more control over, I give what I feel I can and should.

Churches asking for a tithe are not equatable to taxes and loopholes. At least I am not seeing the connection.

One is mandatory and one is based on your beliefs/choice.

They can be. There are plenty of small, struggling churches out there who barely scrape by with their tax exempt status. There are also plenty of megachurches with pastors making six figures or more, and there are some that are so dubious that they appear to be nothing more than tax scams like Scientology. Somewhere in the middle are well-organized, well-provisioned churches, which the LDS church sits at the top of. I'm okay with their tax exempt status as long as they're not putting that money back into politics, but at the same time they're at a point where they don't need to - they can encourage their members to give more to the right causes and they can mobilize an army of volunteers anywhere that would make the Red Cross - hell, that would make the Red Army - envious.

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
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I'm not asking if we should change our tax exempt statuses or whether you should get the most out of your tax returns. I'm wondering why we shouldn't expect our politicians to pay the most into a system that they are bent on leading. Sounds like Romney cares more about his church than America, if that's where all his tax money is going.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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So you're mad because you think he should pay more than he owes?

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
Title: Grammar Nazi
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Altra_Shadowstalker posted:

I'm not asking if we should change our tax exempt statuses or whether you should get the most out of your tax returns. I'm wondering why we shouldn't expect our politicians to pay the most into a system that they are bent on leading. Sounds like Romney cares more about his church than America, if that's where all his tax money is going.

That's a fairly nonsensical argument. Maybe he should have worked for Bain for free, too, if he cared enough for the business.

Yes, government needs money to run, but there's a fairly popular consensus among Americans that it should use the least amount of money possible to do so.

 

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