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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-11-21 11:55:52
Tych2 posted:

Eager_Igraine posted:

Are you 'retiring' for the good life, changing careers or what?

To be honest I am not sure. We've recently decided this. I might just take some time off. I will still do taxes in some capacity.



Whatever you decide, enjoy

 

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Bobvillas  3 stars
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reesescups posted:

Bobvillas posted:




You would make Pete Burns proud

p.s. I watched that whole video.





I am also puzzled by this.

I made a noob mistake and directed a "spin" song to the wrong person in the wrong thread in the wrong forum!

 

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Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
Posts: 1,266
Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Cawlin posted:

So wait, what are you guys arguing here?

Are you arguing that a person who paid taxes in accordance with the law should be paying more just because... well just because they SHOULD?

Are you arguing that the tax code is FUBAR (if so, then I will agree with you)?



I don't think anyone else was making this argument, just me. Maybe Yuki, but I'm not sure he even agrees with my point. I'm not sure I even agree with my point, I was just asking (and then trying to make sure everyone was on the same page).

Your post actually tells me that I didn't explain my question very well. I specifically said I'm not trying to make a point about the tax code in general or whether normal people should pay more in taxes.

My question was specifically targeting every politician who seeks to run this country. Let's say, for example, someone makes $400,000 and has a tax rate of 15%. They owe $60,000. They also belong to a church, and that church says you should pay us 10% of what you make in a tithe (many churches do this, not just Mormons). So that person pays the church $40,000, and because you can only get out of paying half your taxes, pays the government $30,000. So our politician, who is more than likely going to raise taxes on one group of people throughout his tenure, has decided that instead of supporting the system that he intends to run, supports his church, and actually pays the church more money than he pays the government.

I'm asking more as a question of why we let our leaders get away with this. In my book, you lead by example. These guys are imposing mandatory increases on us and are choosing to exempt themselves, in part, from that very system. If every single person in America who paid taxes only paid half of what they owed to the government, how much higher would our tax rate be?

I know it's dumb, but I think it's worth thinking about.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Tych2 posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

Last year we were both students and under the income limit for filing. So we would have had to file just to get our 50 bucks back. I wasn't going to spend 2-3 hours doing that for 50 bucks.

Two students wouldn't be spending 2-3 hours doing their taxes unless they couldn't read. It's statements like this that are leading me to my conclusion.



We had income. Just not quite enough to have to file a return. Neither of us have ever really done taxes. I'm sure it would have taken 2-3 hours to get all the income information together and fill out the forms and all that.


Incidentally it ended up backfiring because the stupid IRS sent us something asking us to prove our income was below the filing requirement so we had to do all that work anyhow. And it definitely took 2-3 hours.


So in hindsight I shoulda just got the 50 bucks back since I ended up having to do the same crap anyhow for nothing.


And you're missing the point about your clients. The sort of people who are willing to pay you a large hourly rate to do their taxes are by definition the sort of people who want to save every penny on their taxes. If they weren't they wouldn't come to you. That's why I said it's selection bias.


It's like being a prison warden and saying everyone is a criminal because everyone you see is a criminal.


There are millions and millions of people like me who would rather pay less than more on their taxes but who arn't going to go way out of their way to do so. You can choose not to believe that but it's just a fact.
Tych2  4 stars
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If you say so chief.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Don't you call me chief, buddy.
Altra_Shadowstalker  4 stars
Posts: 1,266
Registered: 2002-1-17 11:48:15
Tych2 posted:

If you say so chief.




I don't think that is ever going to get old.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Bobvillas posted:

reesescups posted:





I am also puzzled by this.

I made a noob mistake and directed a "spin" song to the wrong person in the wrong thread in the wrong forum!

I think there are three strike laws in effect round these parts son...

 

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Clackdor  1 star
Posts: 163
Registered: 2001-9-21 12:10:52
Haha. Yuki is a fool.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
No, but I am a llama.

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