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Yukishiro1  Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Yossarian_42 posted:
If you look at Mass Effect 2's story academically and analyze the content then it is awful. But I played ME2 and did not get bored, it kept me wanting to play until I finished it so as far as I am concerned it is fine.
Yeah, but then you finished it and if you were like me you were like "wtf? that's it? I just spend the whole game assembling a party to...assemble a party?"
I don't disagree they're able to keep you going. That was the major difference with NWN, which is exactly the same formula as the ME games but failed much more spectacularly. In NWN they had the awful formula but weren't able to paper over it well enough.
ME2 was good enough for what it was, it was just startlingly unambitious. Like almost all BW games since NWN have been. It seems to be what they can do though, because when they try to deviate the results are generally pretty mixed (see Jade Dragon, probably the only really interesting game BW has made from a development perspective in the past 10 years or so).
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Yossarian_42 Title: RUSH > ALL
Posts: 1,046
Registered: 2002-2-28 11:23:20
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Japanese RPGs have the most ridiculously awful stories of them all. The Japanese have the narrative skill of a island of xenophobic perverts.
What Japanese RPGs do often have is good story flow, which is really important in that sort of game. They pull you from one area to the next with an engaging enough story (and cool world eating robot explosions) to keep you from shutting it off but ultimately the stories range from trite to absurd.
Everyone loves FFVII, myself included, but the story was ridiculous. I doubt most FFVII fans can even tell you WTF it all meant, let alone what happened.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
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Yossarian_42 posted:
Everyone loves FFVII, myself included, but the story was ridiculous. I doubt most FFVII fans can even tell you WTF it all meant, let alone what happened.
I'm not sure that makes the story ridiculous. Or at lesat not bad.
FFVII is a good example of a narrative driven game, though. BW games have moved away from a narrative focus and more towards episodic content. I don't like the change because when you create episodes that can be re-ordered to suit the order the player happens to do them in you lose a lot of the drive a good story can provide.
ME2 is the ultimate example of episodic content because really nothign in the whole game matters chronologically. The whole game is set up to be a bunch of unrelated set pieces and the story even reinforces it by proving to be a totally pointless side story that really doesn't advance the plot at all.
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Elocism  Title: Pseudonym
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Registered: 2002-5-3 01:50:00
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ME2 is the finest video game ever created
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cobane  Posts: 473
Registered: 2001-9-6 18:42:56
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Mass Effect 2 was awful. My robot crewmember died and everybody wept for 'em even though he was a fuggin' robot what could be rebuilt.
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Rhint Posts: 268
Registered: 2002-9-17 20:38:54
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Yukishiro1 posted:
I expect Mass Effect 3 to be massively (ha, ha,) disappointing. It seems deliberately contrived to just be another "go to each world in the order you want to GATHER ALLIES!"
Just like ME1. And Dragon age 1. And ME2. And every Bioware game since freaking NWN when Bioware went off the rails.
NWN was awesome. Not the game as it shipped, but what people did with it after.
I enjoyed DA1 and ME2, but otherwise feel that their mojo may be gone.
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cobane Posts: 473
Registered: 2001-9-6 18:42:56
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They never had it to begin with. Black Isle Studios was the talented one.
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Kordirn Title: Pirate Prince
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Registered: 2004-4-19 01:15:26
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I wanted to say pc... but mass effect 3 is going to require origin. That means I am buying it for the console.
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gatzby  Title: Insanity Personified
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Registered: 2001-7-26 17:49:19
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Yossarian_42 posted:
There is really no question, the PC version is the definitive version.
Yes, I have played both versions of both games.
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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__Bonk__ posted:
Japanese RPGs have the best stories Yoss
 Bonk likes misogynist twaddle.
Here is a Japanese rpg storyline:  X  +   /   = 
On topic: I loved the Assassins Creed storylines. And i thought it fit well inside the sandbox play too.
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