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Can We Go From That Which is Known to that Which is Unknown?
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_Enkidu_
Title: Zen Badger
Posts: 280
Registered: 2001-12-24 05:02:15
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Can We Go From That Which is Known to that Which is Unknown?
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Not sure you wouldn't be better served by starting with a fundamental 'nothing' instead of unity. It's much more interesting to search for whatever might be there than to make a blind guess at something that might not. The universe is a big place, there's lots to see and do, why chase ghosts when there are hot women everywhere?
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Modeeb
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
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I'm fine with starting with a fundamental Nothing. They are two sides to the same Reality coin.
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Z-Elder
Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Mo, I am with you. I do not see how it is possible to go from the known to the unknown with any certainty. You will always bring your own bias to the search. No matter what you do the instrument that you use has it's own limiting factors.
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_Enkidu_
Title: Zen Badger
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Registered: 2001-12-24 05:02:15
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Can We Go From That Which is Known to that Which is Unknown?
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Going from the know to the unknown is demostrated all the time. The certainty you are looking for in this change is that the previous known is no longer true which is not trivial at all. The real fun comes in chasing down the unknown all over again to see what you find this time.
Not being too tightly tied to your beliefs is what seperates critical thinkers from the rabble.
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Z-Elder
Posts: 671
Registered: 2002-3-15 13:58:39
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Your faith is strong but I will pass on the stumbling around after your imaginary carrots. Too neurotic for my tastes.
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"The poison of our ordinary habits has killed the magic of the moment"
"Men are not in hell because God is angry with them . . .
they stand in the state of division and separation which by their own motion, they have made for themselves"
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Modeeb
Title: A Ghost In The Machine
Posts: 1,258
Registered: 2002-4-19 10:48:36
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Can We Go From That Which is Known to that Which is Unknown?
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Z I may be confusing. Every act of knowledge presupposes the basic Unity. Without Unity nothing would be knowable. Everything is related. All is One. It is because of the Oneness, we can proceed from what is known to the unknown.
We all should qualify, with the disclaimer: But that is not it. Doubt always presupposes a greater respect for the Truth. It also solves the limitations of our perceptual bias.
One issue is you and I, if we sit down will come to some agreement amount some things that can never be proved. How the hell did we come to know these things?
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Koneg
Title: Evil Genius
Posts: 894
Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
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_Enkidu_ posted:
Absolute truth is impossible to justify, or even identify,
Bollocks.
The Sun is hot.
Water is wet.
BT is a moron.
Gravity sucks.
Christina Hendricks is a babe.
These are all absolute truths, easy to justify and trivial to identify. They are known, and can never be unknown.
So there. 
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imaloon1
Posts: 674
Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
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1/1/00 12:00am
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I don't think you did know it Mo. You just accepted the other argument as "proof" of knowledge.
Faith if you will.
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Date Posted:
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Modeeb posted:
Z I may be confusing. Every act of knowledge presupposes the basic Unity. Without Unity nothing would be knowable. Everything is related. All is One. It is because of the Oneness, we can proceed from what is known to the unknown.
We all should qualify, with the disclaimer: But that is not it. Doubt always presupposes a greater respect for the Truth. It also solves the limitations of our perceptual bias.
One issue is you and I, if we sit down will come to some agreement amount some things that can never be proved. How the hell did we come to know these things?
You found them within yourself.
The only thing you can truly know is yourself.
Truth is. You are part of it, so by learning about yourself you learn truth.
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Date Posted:
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I can always tell a Modeeb thread without seeing who the poster is.
We are at now, now. What you're looking at now is happening now. When will then be now? Soon. How soon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNIwlRClHsQ
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