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reesescups  4 stars
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steelsixsix posted:

Where are the tax gurus?

 

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stevenmeadowsin  1 star
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Registered: 2005-12-13 09:50:27
It's these types of capital gains arguments that make conservatives look incredibly stupid. There are legit arguments for a low capital gains tax, but acting like Romney is taking on the chin paying more than 97% of americans is stupid.

Hey asshole...he makes more than damn near everyone else. He should pay more and I'm a Romney supporter!!

 

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steelsixsix  1 star
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Isn't his plan for people like him to pay 25%?
stevenmeadowsin  1 star
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Registered: 2005-12-13 09:50:27
A lot of plans have lower tax rates but reduce/eliminate the deductions. You'll have to research as there are a lot of "plans" out there.

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
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steelsixsix posted:

reesescups posted:

Groucho48 posted:

So, another way of looking at it is that a family of 4, making 50000 a year paid maybe an income tax rate of 10-12% on that, and a payroll tax rate of 12.4% on that, while Romney payed nothing on his first 50000.

Partisan BS aside...

This is what needs to be addressed.


/But how?



Can't be right. Standard reduction is like 10-11k and each exemption is like 4k, so that is 27k not taxed. Tax on 23k cant be more than 3k. Social security is 7.5% not 12.4%. Where are the tax gurus?



You're right. Teach me to just try to remember numbers. Family of 4 would have a standard deduction and exemptions would be about 27000. Leaving about 23000 to be taxed. 8500 of that would be taxed at 10%, the rest at 15%. So, $850. + 2025 = 2875 in income tax on income of 50000. A little under 6%. Plus payroll taxes, of course.

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
Bonzoboy1 posted:

Did Romney actually do anything wrong or are people just venting on him?



No, he's just being used as an example for several things: how farked up our tax system is, one reason for the 99% thing, why people are complaining about unfair treatment between income classes, etc.

If i were him, i'd probably do the same. That doesn't mean it should be happening.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Kjarhall posted:

Bonzoboy1 posted:

Did Romney actually do anything wrong or are people just venting on him?



No, he's just being used as an example for several things: how farked up our tax system is, one reason for the 99% thing, why people are complaining about unfair treatment between income classes, etc.

If i were him, i'd probably do the same. That doesn't mean it should be happening.



What gets me is that Romney was never in a position to change the tax code, many of his critics on both sides were.

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
Bonzoboy1 posted:

Kjarhall posted:

Bonzoboy1 posted:

Did Romney actually do anything wrong or are people just venting on him?



No, he's just being used as an example for several things: how farked up our tax system is, one reason for the 99% thing, why people are complaining about unfair treatment between income classes, etc.

If i were him, i'd probably do the same. That doesn't mean it should be happening.



What gets me is that Romney was never in a position to change the tax code, many of his critics on both sides were.



He was in a position to change the state tax code...

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
Kjarhall posted:

He was in a position to change the state tax code...

While he was the state's head, he was never in position to change the state's tax code. Make no mistake that the dems run MA and we've had a string of criminal speakers.


Charles Flaherty Democratic 1991 – April 9, 1996 27th Middlesex District Resigned - pleaded guilty to tax evasion
Thomas Finneran Democratic April 9, 1996 – September 28, 2004 12th Suffolk District Resigned due to allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice
Salvatore DiMasi Democratic September 28, 2004 – January 27, 2009 3rd Suffolk District Resigned - convicted of conspiracy, honest services fraud, and extortion

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
Tych2 posted:

Kjarhall posted:

He was in a position to change the state tax code...

While he was the state's head, he was never in position to change the state's tax code. Make no mistake that the dems run MA and we've had a string of criminal speakers.


Charles Flaherty Democratic 1991 – April 9, 1996 27th Middlesex District Resigned - pleaded guilty to tax evasion
Thomas Finneran Democratic April 9, 1996 – September 28, 2004 12th Suffolk District Resigned due to allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice
Salvatore DiMasi Democratic September 28, 2004 – January 27, 2009 3rd Suffolk District Resigned - convicted of conspiracy, honest services fraud, and extortion



I'd say that being Gov. puts him in position. His being prevented or failing to do it would be another story.

 

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