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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
This argument would mean that neither McCain nor Romney could run.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Taliesihne posted:

This argument would mean that neither McCain nor Romney could run.



no, its ok. theyre white

 

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Clackdor  1 star
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Minor v. Happersett was about women's suffrage and was rendered inapplicable by the Nineteenth Amendment.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
sweeny_comodore posted:

if a kenyan born british national marries an american, then he too becomes an american citizen.
so obama was born to citizen parents.


or do the parents also have to be born here, now?

The argument being presented is that both parents have to be citizens in order to be "natural born".

Also, citizenship isn't automatically conferred on spouses. They can apply for it, but I'm pretty sure Barack Sr. never did so.

 

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RHWarrior  3 stars
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Registered: 2009-9-30 18:42:12
I don't get it.
What is the inherent value in being a "natural born citizen" in the case of an American?

Most are just 1-2 steps away from being scruffy immigrants, so it's mostly a technicality.

 

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NuEM  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-3-2 09:08:11
It's to prevent the British elite from taking over again.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
ZigmundZag posted:

sweeny_comodore posted:

if a kenyan born british national marries an american, then he too becomes an american citizen.
so obama was born to citizen parents.


or do the parents also have to be born here, now?

The argument being presented is that both parents have to be citizens in order to be "natural born".

Also, citizenship isn't automatically conferred on spouses. They can apply for it, but I'm pretty sure Barack Sr. never did so.



both parents ARE citizens. one is naturalized but still a citizen.
or are you using the term citizen to mean "someone born within the borders of the US"?

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts: 1,117
Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
ZigmundZag posted:

Also, citizenship isn't automatically conferred on spouses. They can apply for it, but I'm pretty sure Barack Sr. never did so.



This is correct.

My wife and I have been married 9 years. She is not a US Citizen (but is here legally.)

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
my sister and brother-in-law have been married for 6 years(?)
he got his citizenship after 4

guy i work with has been in country (from lithuania) for 10(?) years.
he just got his citizenship last summer.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts: 1,117
Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
You can apply after 5 years now I think.

Temporary Landed Alien (0 months - 1 year), Conditional Permanent Landed Alien (1 - 5 years), Permanent Landed Alien (5 years+).

Once you become a Permanent Landed Alien, you can get divorced, commit a crime, etc. and not face immediate deportation. You also no longer have to inform the government when you move.

(It could be 3 years, I seem to remember 5).

After you are a Permanent Landed Alien, you have to submit the paperwork for citizenship, attend the classes and pass the test.

 

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