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theredkay1  Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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The affordable care act required drug companies in certain circumstances to offer name brand drugs at a significant discount. Savings of around a billion a year in drug costs.
Wonder why the group in DC who is most panicked about government spending didnt push this further?
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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paulg_68 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
The Bush Administration made it illegal for Medicare to shop for the best price.
I assume Obama and the Democrats reversed that when they had the chance right?
Right?
/crickets
That's what I thought.
I believe they tried, as a part of health care reform, but all Republicans and a few Blue Dogs voted against it. You, of course, will still blame Obama.
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paulg_68  Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Everyone agreed that the Senate version of the bill was a turd. You included.
The only reason anyone changed their mind was that some people value partisanship over the good of the country.
It's hard to get mad at Republicans and blue dogs for opposing a bill that even mindless Democrat partisans admitted was crap.
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Groucho48 Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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Reconciliation got rid of the worst stuff. Yes, the bill is not nearly as strong or good as it could have been, but, it is better than what there was. As the several million young adults who are now insured under their parents policy can attest. And, while I'm too lazy to look back, the part allowing Medicare to look for the lowest bid for prescription meds was a separate amendment and was voted down by the usual right wing suspects.
Obamacvare isn't even the half a loaf of lore, but, even a couple slices of bread is better than the sawdust we had before.
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One
Posts: 915
Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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Aerlinthian posted:
Sgian_Dubh posted:
The biggest problem with your argument is that it is not supported very well by history. We've all seen the result of un regulated capitalism, and it wasn't pretty for most people.
False, prior to the unconstitutional mandates of the LBJ era blue collar workers could readily afford routine medical care and insurance policies. (You can check that with NBER) It is the illegal and direct involvement of government that has since skyrocketed the costs, which corporatists so love.
It is highly ironic that the horrific and sweeping legislation of the LBJ era was called; "the war on poverty". 
Proof?
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AzureTyger  Title: Awesome
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Registered: 2002-4-1 15:49:04
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It is amazing to me how much the capital class can rely on the blissful stupidity and lack of understanding that rank and file right wingers possess.
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paulg_68 posted:
Big government types are happy to take away the rights of individuals who are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves if it means expanding government and protecting the dumbest members of society.
Freedom means nothing to libtards.
how bout pass a universal helthcare bill the excludes anyone making over 150k/yr.
if you want to pay some private insurance company twice as much for half the service, then feel free to do so. i know how hard it can be to find a place to spend the extra money thats burning a hole in your wallet, but let the rest of us get cheap, common sense, healthcare when we need it.
and since you are going to complain about that being class warfare, then leave we can even leave it entirely up to you. support your greedy private companies or join the regular joes.
if you dont like this idea, then stfu. you were given the fair choice your freedoms demanded.
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GrilledCheez Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
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Free is generally the most expensive.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
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Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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sweeny_comodore posted:
paulg_68 posted:
Big government types are happy to take away the rights of individuals who are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves if it means expanding government and protecting the dumbest members of society.
Freedom means nothing to libtards.
how bout pass a universal helthcare bill the excludes anyone making over 150k/yr.
It is pretty clear that Paul does not want people making less than that to have healthcare duh
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i thought he just wanted a choice on which profiteer to freely make richer.
i guess not allowing the lessthans to have health insurance isnt really class warfare since its a privilege theyve never really had from the get go.
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