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LadyGodiva.  1 star
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Registered: 2008-11-8 19:05:36
eodoll posted:

Lets say your back hurts and you go to the doctor - 9 times out of 10, youll walk out with a prescription for ibuprofen and vicodin.

Was the dr visit necessary?
Why not make those drugs OTC. They are both generic and cheap.

The dr office visit was added by the government as a way to force us to waste money.



Advil = ibuprofen. It's already OTC.
Vicodin is often abused.

I do think doctors prescribe too many drugs though. You can get through a lot of things without painkillers. I never used the vicodin I was prescribed for my wisdom teeth extraction... and I could open up a small pharmacy with all the antibiotics and various pills that we've gathered through the years which were much more than we needed (take for 10 days but they give you enough for 20).
Ptilk  4 stars
Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
medicare isn't going broke.

Anyone who thinks it is....is a god damn idiot.
Elkad  2 stars
Title: aka Ebenezer
Posts: 407
Registered: 2003-9-11 22:20:55
It's not just medicare.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/anatomy-a-ripoff-article-1.1002077


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As but one example of what I discovered, consider Ondansetron HCl, an anti-nausea medication that both hospitals administered to my son. Good Samaritan charged $439.90 for the drug; Aetna allowed $77.63. Somerset charged $6.52; Aetna paid $3.26.

Medicare pays 17 cents per dose.



258,000% markup for people paying cash vs medicare.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
Posts: 2,469
Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
Ptilk posted:

medicare isn't going broke.

Anyone who thinks it is....is a god damn idiot.


Projected costs are much higher than projected revenue.

Please explain how that doesn't result in going broke if something isn't done to either reduce costs or increase revenues.

 

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eodoll  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
Well i know exactly what drug i need when my back hurts. Vicodin and motrin. Sometimes i need valium or soma too.

I dont need to see a doctor to determine what i need.

So that hospital visit (extra business for the dr, hospital and pharmacist) is legislated and mandated by the government. Its a sham and a way to rip us off and funnel our money into other peoples pockets.
paulg_68  4 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
Big government types are happy to take away the rights of individuals who are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves if it means expanding government and protecting the dumbest members of society.

Freedom means nothing to libtards.

 

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eodoll  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
Its like regulating us into using other peoples business service and then saying "oh thats cpensive?"

Get insurance. And then they make a big fuss about insurance.

So many hospital and dr visits are pointless..if drugs were OTC then many people would have no need to see a dr or pharmacist. Vicodin is generic and a 50 pack costs 7.99. An 8$ drug ends up costing the onsumer several hundred when you take in the paperwork, time and dr visits.

Anyway, the system needs complete overhaul; the way it is today , its designed to rip us off. Even hospitals dont have to post their rates and surcharges so we cant even shop around.
Groucho48  3 stars
Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
The Bush Administration made it illegal for Medicare to shop for the best price. The VA can and it has much lower drug costs.

 

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Elkad  2 stars
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Posts: 407
Registered: 2003-9-11 22:20:55
Should be illegal for medical services to charge wildly different amounts because of your payment method.

It is for the rest of business.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
Groucho48 posted:

The Bush Administration made it illegal for Medicare to shop for the best price.


I assume Obama and the Democrats reversed that when they had the chance right?

Right?

/crickets

That's what I thought.

 

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