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Cawlin
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Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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Agree with Yuki here. There are clear differences.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
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How did this suddenly go moral... from the 'lawyer' no less?
Is it LEGALLY stealing to repossess the wallet in this scenario?
If it is NOT stealing here, why would it LEGALLY be stealing in the case of fraud, instead?
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Cawlin
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Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
How did this suddenly go moral... from the 'lawyer' no less?
Is it LEGALLY stealing to repossess the wallet in this scenario?
If it is NOT stealing here, why would it LEGALLY be stealing in the case of fraud, instead?
It went "moral" when Paul argued in the other thread that morally he felt justified in taking money from the guy's wallet without the guy's permission (or even awareness that he was in the wallet to begin with).
The addition of the morality issue was Paul's. Paul asserts that in these cases morality > law.
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Yukishiro1
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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He asked about morality, not legality. Try to keep up fatty.
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vn_nnanji
Title: Outpost Music Expert
Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
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1/1/00 12:00am
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Who ordered the paul minimelt?
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Abaddon_Ambrosius
Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
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Yukishiro1 posted:
He asked about morality, not legality. Try to keep up fatty.
But we KNOW where he's going with this. He just telegraphed it a couple posts up.
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paulg_68
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Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
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Date Posted:
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Yukishiro1 posted:
The other hypotehtical didn't involve fraud.
Of course it did.
Loans of that nature are to be paid back as soon as the money is available. It's implied and it's common knowledge.
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Date Posted:
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IMHO posted:
God help us if Paul ever becomes a vegan. 
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Cawlin
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paulg_68 posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
The other hypotehtical didn't involve fraud.
Of course it did.
Loans of that nature are to be paid back as soon as the money is available. It's implied and it's common knowledge.
Your definition of "common knowledge" is precisely why written SPECIFIC agreements are created for lending serious money. It is actually NOT common knowledge at all what you're saying, hence the reason for defined terms and contractual arrangements.
One person's definition of "available" is not the same as another's.
To YOU "available" might mean "as soon as he has 50 bucks in his hands to give back.
To the other guy it might mean "as soon as I have 50 bucks after I take care of all my bills and my routine recreational spending".
THIS is common knowledge and THIS is why it's common knowledge that unless you discuss specific terms of the repayment of a loan and seek some guarantee of understanding of and agreement to these terms, that you should consider any loan a gift, ESPECIALLY if it's between friends and/or acquaintances.
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Tych2
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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IMHO posted:
God help us if Paul ever becomes a vegan.
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