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Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
dae_trist posted:

You're the only one crying, as usual



Oh buuhuu western genocide.. I'd happily murder billions to safeguard the western world, and so do our leaders. Because we have the bombs, nuclear f'kin weapons.. So keep on nursing your bleeding rectum and cry moar noob.

 

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Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
dae_trist posted:

reesescups posted:

Manegarm posted:

dae_trist posted:

garbeled mess of insults to many outposters



Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly

A threat? Western Hegemony wouldn't exist without China bankrolling it...





But they have tons of steel in them thar mountains. Sweden be immune to evarthing, except for inbreeding and the swarms of angry Muslims raping their women in Stockholm and Malmo.


And anyone with even a width of didactic know how would know that you find iron ore in mountains, which is then made into steel.

Noob.

 

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dae_trist  4 stars
Posts: 1,049
Registered: 2003-6-5 13:32:39
Manegarm posted:

dae_trist posted:

You're the only one crying, as usual



Oh buuhuu western genocide.. I'd happily murder billions to safeguard the western world, and so do our leaders. Because we have the bombs, nuclear f'kin weapons.. So keep on nursing your bleeding rectum and cry moar noob.



Too bad everyone else is also happy to murder billions to safeguard against the western world, and considering China alone can wipe all of you off the face of the planet if she ever desired, it's not necessarily a good thing for you.

 

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dae_trist  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-6-5 13:32:39
Manegarm posted:

dae_trist posted:

reesescups posted:

Manegarm posted:

dae_trist posted:

garbeled mess of insults to many outposters



Anything that is a threat against western hegemony needs to be dealt with harshly

A threat? Western Hegemony wouldn't exist without China bankrolling it...





But they have tons of steel in them thar mountains. Sweden be immune to evarthing, except for inbreeding and the swarms of angry Muslims raping their women in Stockholm and Malmo.


And anyone with even a width of didactic know how would know that you find iron ore in mountains, which is then made into steel.

Noob.


I got them steel in them thar mountains, and I be so unmad n shiet, but i make dem 3 post about you but im not mad, cause i got them thar steel in them mountains

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
dae_trist posted:

Groucho,

I think you might be aware but Foxconn is not a Chinese company. There is an unrealistic expectation of the Chinese government being omniscient and omnipotent and capable of micromanaging every single Chinese citizen and the thousands if not tens of thousands of companies starting up every year all across the country. Filter that through hearsay and other BS and I'm sure we're not getting the whole picture - Foxconn is generally not known for poor treatment of workers, but I suppose their Chinese division might be.

The simple fact is that American mass media has deliberately whitewashed the Taiwanese origin of the company out of print, which explains why so many their consumers are omitting this crucial detail.



It really doesn't matter who owns the company. What matters is that the Chinese government is willing to subsidize new factories on even the chance of it attracting new business and the fact that workers in China have little or no protection from predatory companies. I'm sure there are other countries that are just as bad as China about that kind of thing and I'm sure the right in this country would absolutely love it if it could force all workers to live in company dormitories and be at the company's beck and call 24/7.


In related news, China is spending three quarters of a trillion dollars over the next decade to ensure that they control the vast majority of green technology factories. That's one of the reasons Solyndra went bankrupt. Now, Solyndra might have had other problems. Everything written about it is from a partisan viewpoint, so it's hard to tell for sure, but, the fact is, if the U.S. government doesn't support the ability of U.S. companies in the alternative energy field, we will lose THE big economic fight of the 21st Century.

In other words, I think China is doing some things we should also be doing and some things we should take as cautionary examples.

 

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Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
reesescups posted:

Kjarhall posted:

Desnoxvu posted:

China is actually more free market than the US. People have told me that it is super easy to open a business there and that the government actually helps to make sure you are able to open a business.





Don't laugh, it's true - they will help even if you are a smelly foreigner...



Ashmaele got it, further down the thread.

Plus, im just laughing that DesPaulhumpervu thinks that China is more free market by that example, and forgets that the US has been helping private citizens open businesses for decades. Also, China has regulations too, many of which are similar or the same as in the US.

Plus, forcefully manipulating your own population into production leverage isn't very free market.

 

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dae_trist  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-6-5 13:32:39
China's record on worker's rights is here and there, but "officially" there are laws regarding pay and maximum hours of employment. A lot of the problem is uneven enforcement which is typical of developing countries, but they have been improving steadily - as would be expected. Right wingers may salivate at the thought of paying people a few cents an hour for 16 hours a day six days a week, but they neglect to mention that China has massive subsidies for housing, healthcare, education, transport etc for the poorest people and minorities, which is why they have (or had) one the lowest wealth disparities in the world even as a poor and rapidly growing nation.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
Title: In Moe We Trust
Posts: 1,962
Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
Its funny to watch Chinese apologists try to defend abhorrent worker abuse, deadly pollution, and oppression in Tibet with a 'but but but.. asian school girls!'

 

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dae_trist  4 stars
Posts: 1,049
Registered: 2003-6-5 13:32:39
It's funny to watch some people run their mouths as if they know anything about anything aside from basketball and spreading AIDS, but there's a time for comedy and a time for discussion, my good friend.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
Posts: 2,537
Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Groucho48 posted:

It really doesn't matter who owns the company. What matters is that the Chinese government is willing to subsidize new factories on even the chance of it attracting new business and the fact that workers in China have little or no protection from predatory companies.

Nobody - and I mean nobody - in the Chinese Government was forcing a single person to work for Foxconn...


HTH

 

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