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Author Topic: So who thought the fence on the Mexican border was a good idea? [Locked]
theredkay1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Aerlinthian posted:

...calling people who break into your home and stealing your belongings, calling that free trade is on its face, ludicrous.



Who is calling it that? You should listen to this guy:


Aerlinthian posted:

If you can't form an argument without putting words into other peoples mouths then you have no valid argument.



Aerlinthian  4 stars
Posts: 2,126
Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
Yukishiro1 posted:

Aerlinthian posted:

A million people are year is low?

That's like 0.3% of the population. Yes, that is very low. 2-3% is generally considered about what a country can absorb without serious consequences.

You have a source for this arbitrary number? And how is over a million people a year low when we have a 23% unemployment rate, nearly 46 million people on tax payer assistance and a 15 trillion dollar national debt and a annual trillion dollar deficit? What is wrong with stabilizing ourselves and getting our country going in the right direction again before taking in many people who are unproductive?
Sinlock  2 stars
Title: Savior of the Camelot Outpost
Posts: 376
Registered: 2000-5-14 16:20:01
sweeny_comodore posted:

Sinlock posted:

We should actually send our military into Mexico itself to work with the Mexican government and start killing off the Cartels down there. They are as bad as the Taliban.



i concur
terrorism is bad no matter what brown person is committing it.



Not only that - a great way to curb illegal immigration is to make the place they are coming from better. The cartels down there are totally savaging the country. It was bad before, and is now, far, far, worse. We should work with them to stamp out these criminal organizations and I think it is really sad that this is not being seriously discussed up top.

If I was Mexican I would be hitting the border every chance I could get.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
The only reason so many immigrants are unproductive is because of our policy of favoring non-productive immigrants over productive ones.


There are already no caps on family members. Raising caps won't impact them. You won't see any more grannies showing up.


Letting in another 1 million productive, skilled, hard-working individuals a year would be a tremendous economic boon, not a bane.
sweeny_comodore  4 stars
Posts: 1,216
Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Sinlock posted:

sweeny_comodore posted:

Sinlock posted:

We should actually send our military into Mexico itself to work with the Mexican government and start killing off the Cartels down there. They are as bad as the Taliban.



i concur
terrorism is bad no matter what brown person is committing it.



Not only that - a great way to curb illegal immigration is to make the place they are coming from better. The cartels down there are totally savaging the country. It was bad before, and is now, far, far, worse. We should work with them to stamp out these criminal organizations and I think it is really sad that this is not being seriously discussed up top.

If I was Mexican I would be hitting the border every chance I could get.



or we could legalise it.

 

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Aerlinthian  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-5-7 23:53:38
Yukishiro1 posted:

Letting in another 1 million productive, skilled, hard-working individuals a year would be a tremendous economic boon, not a bane.

Thank you for admitting that allowing in unskilled labor is bad. Now maybe we can put our troops where they need to be which is not in other crap hole countries that will never amount to anything and spending billions of dollars on nation building them when we don't have the money and we have staggering economic problems of our own to deal with.
Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
There is nothing necessary wrong with unskilled immigrants either. They're just not as clearly a net economic gain.


There are millions of educated Chinese and Indian professionals who would love to come to this country who instead go to Canada or Australia because they arn't such idiots with their immigration policies.


In fact we even let these people come get their PhDs here and then we force them to go home.
Sinlock  2 stars
Title: Savior of the Camelot Outpost
Posts: 376
Registered: 2000-5-14 16:20:01
sweeny_comodore posted:

or we could legalise it.



Both.

If we legalized marijuana (and we should), they'd just find other ways to make money and murder people. The Mexican Cartels are a vile scourge and should be stamped out with extreme prejudice.

 

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