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NuEM  4 stars
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Moe_Nox posted:

Very justified.

 

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Tipztoe  4 stars
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why would the DA press charges on him because he carried in a private store? I can put a sign in my front yards that says no cats. Doesn't mean I can arrest a neighbor if his cat walks in my yard.

It would be one thing if he carried in a Federal building or something.
Koneg  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
Tipztoe posted:

why would the DA press charges on him because he carried in a private store? I can put a sign in my front yards that says no cats. Doesn't mean I can arrest a neighbor if his cat walks in my yard.

Except that in almost all cases the No Guns Allowed sign carries the force of law. In most cases it only results in criminal trespass charges, but in some states it's serious enough it can cost you your carry permit.

Better safe than sorry, so I simply refuse to do business in places that post those signs.

 

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NuEM  4 stars
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You should move to Europe. I've never seen even a single sign like that here.

 

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Cawlin  4 stars
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eodoll posted:

What kind of whacko starts beating somene up for saying "your dog is barkng too much"?

The same knd of whacko that would go on a shooting rampage.

If guns were more accessible then there would be more people with them.



Um, in the dog story, the guy who started beating on the old man was just out of prison for a murder. He would not have been able to legally obtain a firearm because of his conviction. If that guy wanted to get a gun, his only recourse would have been to get one illegally, on the black market, or steal one. How would making it harder for citizens to LEGALLY obtain a firearm have stopped that guy from ILLEGALLY obtaining a firearm?


eodoll posted:

Im all for allowing people to hurt themselves by choice ( im pro legalizing drugs) but guns are a way to hurt and intimidate others not oneself.

Its only protective if youre the only one with it in in a gunfight.



Your thinking is extremely parochial (and backwards) on this topic.

If a gun is only protective if your attacker doesn't have one, what is your protection when you don't have a gun? What is your protection if your attacker has one and you don't?

 

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Koneg  3 stars
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Cawlin posted:

eodoll posted:

Its only protective if youre the only one with it in in a gunfight.



Your thinking is extremely parochial (and backwards) on this topic.

And let's not point out the obvious - that this entire thread began because someone with a gun defended themselves against someone else with a gun.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
We would be better off if no one had guns (in terms of public safety, not getting into military or hunting use). I don't buy into the crap from the pro-gun lobby that guns are actually good for public safety.


That said, we don't live in a world or country where "no guns" is a viable option. The best argument against gun control is that you just end up with only criminals having guns, not some abstract argument about how great guns are. They arn't.
Moe_Nox  4 stars
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"In counties that allow concealed weapons violent crime dropped an average of 3% per year after concealed weapons were allowed"
clicky

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Your clicky is ridiculous and doesn't show what it says it shows. I don't know where your quote came from because I didn't see it there.


Crime has been going down in general by about 3% per year for a decade or two. Without knowing if they controlled for that the statistic says basically nothing.
Tipztoe  4 stars
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Registered: 2004-3-1 17:53:43
Koneg posted:

Tipztoe posted:

why would the DA press charges on him because he carried in a private store? I can put a sign in my front yards that says no cats. Doesn't mean I can arrest a neighbor if his cat walks in my yard.

Except that in almost all cases the No Guns Allowed sign carries the force of law. In most cases it only results in criminal trespass charges, but in some states it's serious enough it can cost you your carry permit.

Better safe than sorry, so I simply refuse to do business in places that post those signs.



How would they even know unless you drew your weapon? Also 1st offense should be a warning in most cases.


Anyway, I too would not patron such places, I just haven't seen any, even here in the communist state of MA.

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