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reesescups  Title: //Captain America
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People who pray must think god sucks... |
Rosaria posted:
Scarne posted:
Rosaria posted:
I am personally familiar with both Shintoism and Buddhism. The fundamental athiests make no distinctions between religions, all of the billions of adherents are somehow lesser than they are. Doesn't make any difference to me one way or the other but it does to them, which is comical.
Some atheists just don't like anything supernatural being taken seriously. Shintoism certainly has plenty of supernatural elements. Many (I'm not sure if all) sects of Buddhism have supernatural elements such as karma and reincarnation. There are almost no religions which are completely free of supernatural elements so they are all the same to that style of atheist. 
Why would it possibly matter what those atheists like or don't like?
Are you asking Scarne or yourself?
You seem to care a lot about what Atheists belief and say...
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Rosaria  Title: They call me Mellow Yellow, quite rightly.
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Registered: 2003-8-22 10:07:30
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reesescups posted:
You seem to care a lot about what Atheists belief and say...
I'm sorry, I thought this was a discussion. I shouldn't question what atheists say, just nod and accept. I'll just read the rest of the thread then?
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Manegarm Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
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Rosaria posted:
I am stating that you have your crutches as do other people. You crystallize your world view from a position of great comfort and security and in the process have denied unquestionable realities about even where you live.
I do not need to delude myself about reality to cope with it, I do not need to lie to myself that the life after this one will be better because my life is good.
Now if I lived in shitkicker US without any real education, no money, 3 jobs, debt and medical bills I might despair but I don't need to and neither does the rest of my Swedish brethren because life here isn't that hard.
As for obesity, well that's a problem for the whole western world.. it's however reached epidemic proportions in the US, and crime well it might be higher then the average for industrialized nation but Swedes tend to report more on crimes, crime is still not a growth industry like in the US where prisons are money machines.
Our economy grew this year, we have a surplus in the treasury and things are actually looking good, jobs are lagging but that is it. We do not have any real poverty, the little we have is fugitives whom we take in who have little or nothing to begin with.
Your blatant accusation that I'm not informed about my own nation is idiotic, I read two newspapers every morning, I read books on our political history every day and I'm going to study states science and political science come autumn. I'm a member of a party which byline has always been to help those in need and to abolish poverty, you're sadly misinformed.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
Posts: 2,537
Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
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Date Posted:
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People who pray must think god sucks... |
Rosaria posted:
reesescups posted:
You seem to care a lot about what Atheists belief and say...
I'm sorry, I thought this was a discussion. I shouldn't question what atheists say, just nod and accept. I'll just read the rest of the thread then?
Can do whatever you like, you know that...
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Scarne Title: Capo di Scientifico
Posts: 1,087
Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
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Date Posted:
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People who pray must think god sucks... |
Rosaria posted:
Scarne posted:
Rosaria posted:
I am personally familiar with both Shintoism and Buddhism. The fundamental athiests make no distinctions between religions, all of the billions of adherents are somehow lesser than they are. Doesn't make any difference to me one way or the other but it does to them, which is comical.
Some atheists just don't like anything supernatural being taken seriously. Shintoism certainly has plenty of supernatural elements. Many (I'm not sure if all) sects of Buddhism have supernatural elements such as karma and reincarnation. There are almost no religions which are completely free of supernatural elements so they are all the same to that style of atheist.
Why would it possibly matter what those atheists like or don't like?
Sorry, I probably shouldn't have worded it that way. Instead of "like", I should have said that they don't believe in anything supernatural. So for them, Shintoism and Buddhism are properly grouped up with all the other religions.
And sure, there are other atheists who just have issues with the typical monotheistic god in which case they should be separating Shintoism, Buddhism, etc from the other religions that they have a beef with.
And it can matter in that if you want atheists to respect your beliefs, you should probably respect their beliefs as well.
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Manegarm Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
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I think it's awesome that we disagree, I would not want it any other way.
It would be hellishly boring if everyone here just had the same opinion on everything.. While I don't agree with any religion and find them all absurd and childish I still don't want to convert anyone, people should believe whatever makes them happy just be ready to get called on your shite if you voice it. 
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"Damn, Manegarm; you are HAWT!! " - Taolynn
"To the everlasting glory of the infantry, Shines the name Shines the name of Rodger Young"
ALWAYS ANGRY, ALL THE TIME!
Nein mann ich will noch nicht gehen
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Rosaria Title: They call me Mellow Yellow, quite rightly.
Posts: 477
Registered: 2003-8-22 10:07:30
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
People who pray must think god sucks... |
Manegarm posted:
Rosaria posted:
I am stating that you have your crutches as do other people. You crystallize your world view from a position of great comfort and security and in the process have denied unquestionable realities about even where you live.
I do not need to delude myself about reality to cope with it, I do not need to lie to myself that the life after this one will be better because my life is good.
Now if I lived in shitkicker US without any real education, no money, 3 jobs, debt and medical bills I might despair but I don't need to and neither does the rest of my Swedish brethren because life here isn't that hard.
As for obesity, well that's a problem for the whole western world.. it's however reached epidemic proportions in the US, and crime well it might be higher then the average for industrialized nation but Swedes tend to report more on crimes, crime is still not a growth industry like in the US where prisons are money machines.
Our economy grew this year, we have a surplus in the treasury and things are actually looking good, jobs are lagging but that is it. We do not have any real poverty, the little we have is fugitives whom we take in who have little or nothing to begin with.
Your blatant accusation that I'm not informed about my own nation is idiotic, I read two newspapers every morning, I read books on our political history every day and I'm going to study states science and political science come autumn. I'm a member of a party which byline has always been to help those in need and to abolish poverty, you're sadly misinformed.
I read your papers as well. I read about your obesity epidemic, I read about your crime rate, I read about your comparative poverty level. I rarely say anything to you because you are so thin-skinned about it you make Dae look rational.
Manegarm posted:
I think it's awesome that we disagree, I would not want it any other way.
It would be hellishly boring if everyone here just had the same opinion on everything.. While I don't agree with any religion and find them all absurd and childish I still don't want to convert anyone, people should believe whatever makes them happy just be ready to get called on your shite if you voice it.
I have not voiced any religious beliefs at all. You however have voiced your beliefs over and over, week after week, until its mechanical reguritation. I cant imagine you find that interesting.
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Manegarm Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
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Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
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Date Posted:
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Scarne posted:
Rosaria posted:
Scarne posted:
Rosaria posted:
I am personally familiar with both Shintoism and Buddhism. The fundamental athiests make no distinctions between religions, all of the billions of adherents are somehow lesser than they are. Doesn't make any difference to me one way or the other but it does to them, which is comical.
Some atheists just don't like anything supernatural being taken seriously. Shintoism certainly has plenty of supernatural elements. Many (I'm not sure if all) sects of Buddhism have supernatural elements such as karma and reincarnation. There are almost no religions which are completely free of supernatural elements so they are all the same to that style of atheist.
Why would it possibly matter what those atheists like or don't like?
Sorry, I probably shouldn't have worded it that way. Instead of "like", I should have said that they don't believe in anything supernatural. So for them, Shintoism and Buddhism are properly grouped up with all the other religions.
And sure, there are other atheists who just have issues with the typical monotheistic god in which case they should be separating Shintoism, Buddhism, etc from the other religions that they have a beef with.
And it can matter in that if you want atheists to respect your beliefs, you should probably respect their beliefs as well.
Skonk you're ruining this, we don't want a civil understanding debate where everyone respects each other.. We want a time consuming entrenched, inflamed heated debate where everyone is at each others throats like rabid beavers!
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"Damn, Manegarm; you are HAWT!! " - Taolynn
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ALWAYS ANGRY, ALL THE TIME!
Nein mann ich will noch nicht gehen
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Rosaria Title: They call me Mellow Yellow, quite rightly.
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Registered: 2003-8-22 10:07:30
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Date Posted:
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Scarne posted:
And it can matter in that if you want atheists to respect your beliefs, you should probably respect their beliefs as well.
Why would I expect Atheists to respect my beliefs? I haven't even stated them.
PS I think the atheists in this thread have made their position quite clear as far as respect goes, don't you?
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Rosaria Title: They call me Mellow Yellow, quite rightly.
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Date Posted:
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People who pray must think god sucks... |
reesescups posted:
Rosaria posted:
reesescups posted:
You seem to care a lot about what Atheists belief and say...
I'm sorry, I thought this was a discussion. I shouldn't question what atheists say, just nod and accept. I'll just read the rest of the thread then?
Can do whatever you like, you know that...
Is this a discussion or not, let me know.
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