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Abaddon_Ambrosius  Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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Registered: 2001-12-21 09:51:39
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1/1/00 12:02am
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Why is birth control covered by insurance? |
Yukishiro1 posted:
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
Breaking your leg is not the predictable, intended, designed outcome from skiing. That's an unintended consequence one should be "insured" by... "insurance"... against. No?
How do you "insure" against something that's going to happen predictably when you're doing something designed to cause that very outcome
So we will cover broken legs because they arn't predictable.
But we will cover children because they are predictable.
And we won't cover abortions or contraception because they are predictable.
 
I see you have ignored the "doing something designed to cause that very outcome" part. Predictably. Recompute. Try again. I'm patient tonight.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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You guys can go around in circles all night long ,but the bottom line here is AA and Paul are on the losing end of this issue and in the end what they say is irrelevant.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Why is birth control covered by insurance? |
Breaking your leg by mistake while skiing = unpredictable, so we will cover them.
Getting pregnant by mistake from having sex = predictable and "designed" so we won't cover contraception or abortions.
Getting pregnant and having a kid on purpose = predictable and "designed" so we will cover having the kid and the kid's health care for 26 years.
Nope, still doesn't make any sense. |
Abaddon_Ambrosius Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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Tych2 posted:
Groupthink and mob rule is AWESOME!!
Spoken like a true... Democrat.
tsk tsk, Tych.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Now I am a dem? Yesterday IMHO was screaming that I was a conservative. Do you understand why I laugh at you guys?
Ultimately sucks for you guys that are on the losing side. There is a reason way mob rules.
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Groucho48  Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
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1/1/00 12:02am
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Why is birth control covered by insurance? |
paulg_68 posted:
Groucho48 posted:
Explain how covering it makes it more expensive. You posted some gibberish about it earlier, but, it didn't make much sense. As I linked, studies show it lowers insurance costs.
Were you aware that insurance and birth control pills are not the same thing?
Groucho48 posted:
My thinking is that, if it saves insurance companies 15-17%, the riders they would offer could easily cut the overall insurance premium by 5% and everyone saves money.
Women taking birth control lowers the cost of providing insurance. This is true whether they pay more for birth control pills or less for birth control pills. In fact the benefits are exactly the same regardless of which price they pay. As such, it's actually cheaper overall if they pay less for the birth control pills when you factor in both the cost of insurance and the cost of birth control pills.
From what I can gather, you are saying that woman getting a, say, 5% discount on their health insurance premium AND getting their pills covered is adding expense, when, instead, they could pay the full premium and then pay, separately, a little less for birth control pills.
Even if I agree that health insurance drives the cost of pills higher...which is a big "if", as health insurance companies have a much, much, much better chance of negotiating good prices than individuals do, having to pay for them separately AND paying a higher monthly premium doesn't come across as cheaper to me.
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:02am
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Why is birth control covered by insurance? |
Abaddon_Ambrosius posted:
Tych2 posted:
Groupthink and mob rule is AWESOME!!
Spoken like a true... Democrat.
tsk tsk, Tych.
That's kind of funny coming from you. When people here don't agree with whatever article you post from WNDhedge.com, out come the goldfish gifs.
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Abaddon_Ambrosius Title: Retired Theurgist TL
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1/1/00 12:03am
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Why is birth control covered by insurance? |
Tych2 posted:
Now I am a dem? Yesterday IMHO was screaming that I was a conservative. Do you understand why I laugh at you guys?
Sounds like you are in need of re-thinking your core principles so you come off as being a bit more consistent then, eh?
Abaddon posted:
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Why is birth control covered by insurance? |
If we insure against unexpected and unintended events it seems like we should cover abortions and contraception but not cover kids themselves. AA's argument leads to a result completely backwards from what he thinks it does. |
Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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You crack me up AA. I am going to take my cues on core principles from you guys?
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