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A fairly concise summary of American hegemony since 1945 by Noam Chomsky
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Clackdor
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Registered: 2001-9-21 12:10:52
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A fairly concise summary of American hegemony since 1945 by Noam Chomsky
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He lost me at the word "the".
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Sin_of_Onin
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A fairly concise summary of American hegemony since 1945 by Noam Chomsky
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AzureTyger posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
I got as far as "invasion of South Vietnam"
WTF?
Well if you have the viewpoint that the dictatorship in South Vietnam was illegitimately supported by the United States over the will of the South Vietnamese people (who overwhelmingly supported Ho Chi Minh in the 50s), then you can spin it that way. As I said, he can overstate his case.
If his goal is to get caught up in stupid semantic debates then I suppose it was a good word choice. If he was looking to make a convincing argument or act as a historian he is an idiot.
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Taliesihne
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A fairly concise summary of American hegemony since 1945 by Noam Chomsky
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His writing on our affairs in Central America is worth a gander. So little attention was paid to what Reagan did there.
It also helps to explain part of the immigration problem.
Always odd to me that 'why are they flocking here?' is never traced back to the utter waste that we laid to civil infrastructure in those countries back in the 80's by the MSM.
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Koneg
Title: Evil Genius
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
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Date Posted:
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A fairly concise summary of American hegemony since 1945 by Noam Chomsky
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AzureTyger posted:
Chomsky doesn't hate America
As a gentle reminder, this is the guy who calls America "the world's greatest terrorist state"?
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There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim.
-- Noam Chomsky, on the raid that killed Osama bin Laden
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Date Posted:
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A fairly concise summary of American hegemony since 1945 by Noam Chomsky
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
AzureTyger posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
I got as far as "invasion of South Vietnam"
WTF?
Well if you have the viewpoint that the dictatorship in South Vietnam was illegitimately supported by the United States over the will of the South Vietnamese people (who overwhelmingly supported Ho Chi Minh in the 50s), then you can spin it that way. As I said, he can overstate his case.
If his goal is to get caught up in stupid semantic debates then I suppose it was a good word choice. If he was looking to make a convincing argument or act as a historian he is an idiot.
Oh, you mean Paulg co-wrote it?
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Sin_of_Onin
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B_Shinkicker posted:
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Oh, you mean Paulg co-wrote it?
He would make one hell of an Outposter though.
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dae_trist
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Registered: 2003-6-5 13:32:39
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Koneg posted:
this is the guy who calls America "the world's greatest terrorist state"?
He's right, but that part on bin Laden is just trolling.
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Yukishiro1
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
If his goal is to get caught up in stupid semantic debates then I suppose it was a good word choice. If he was looking to make a convincing argument or act as a historian he is an idiot.
I dunno, it seems pretty accurate to me. We sent a lot of troops to South Vietnam where they essentially took over and ran the country for the U.S.'s benefit. Because I don't think anyone thinks we gave a crap about the south vietnamese, who we killed nearly as many of as the north vietnamese. Most of the fighting was in the south, not the north.
We didn't invade to "overthrow" the south vietnamese government but I don't see why that means you can't call it an invasion.
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Kjarhall
Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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A fairly concise summary of American hegemony since 1945 by Noam Chomsky
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Koneg posted:
Kjarhall posted:
Koneg posted:
Tired old rants from a tired old America hater
Nuh uh! It's new!
Well, ok - maybe it's new to you.
That's the best you can do? At least try to be relevant. 
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Brother_Tempus
Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Date Posted:
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A fairly concise summary of American hegemony since 1945 by Noam Chomsky
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the problem with Chomsky us that he is right about the transgressions the US government commuted to enact their foreign policy of empire, but he seems to want government to commit those same transgressions to implement a domestic policy of tyranny here to achieve the laughable goal of economic equality that can never be achieve unless you make everyone poor
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