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reesescups  Title: //Captain America
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What is all this noise about 'Big Government'? |
Tych2 posted:
It's funny when people manipulate numbers to try and fool people.
You mean the OP thing? It's not manipulation. On a Federal Level there are less than there were before.
As pointed out more responsibilities were pushed to the states and as we have seen that increased the number of State Employees (Drastically at that!). This would be considered a decentralization. Isn't that a good thing?
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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Make sure you're comparing apples to apples. My numbers were based off FTE, not employee counts. Looks like you mixed the FTE count with the total employee count there, but I might be wrong.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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ZigmundZag posted:
Make sure you're comparing apples to apples. My numbers were based off FTE, not employee counts. Looks like you mixed the FTE count with the total employee count there, but I might be wrong.
Yeah - I just grabbed the totals from the 1992 table and the latest available table. Like I said there might be some tweaking needed to normalize (prolly what you are talking about with whatever FTE is, Full Time Employee's?. If you mean Full Time Employees, then that is apples to apples...)
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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What is all this noise about 'Big Government'? |
FTE = full time equivalency. That's the baseline for comparing headcount of all part & full-time employees.
I took a peek at the local employee data as well but it's not laid out quite as nicely. If I had more time I'd download everything and make a mini-analysis of it.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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reesescups posted:
wow - I am sure there must be some 'tweaks' to the data that need normalization but just raw numbers...
1992 - Total State Employees: 3,835,982
2012 - Total State Employees: 10,965,982
Holy Eff!!!
Ok just pulled the data again to research more about the FTE thing. Now I am thinking it's Full Time Equivalent...
1992: 3,835,982
2012: 4,377,777
So not too much of an increase, but more than offsetting federal 'decreases'. Not even sure where that 10 Million number came from now that I am looking at the data again...
There is another layer to the onion as well - These are state numbers, they also have 'local' data. Digging that up next.
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Right away I see that previously I pulled the state data from the local data...
anyway - numbers
FTE
1993: 9,552,282
2012: 12,203,840
Shrug - no easy excel for 1992... But there is for 1993...
I never realized there were that many 'local' government employees... But it is nice to see the larger numbers being local, then state, then federal... Increases in Local and State, decreases in Federal.
Is this not a good trend?
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Was that the intent of the thread? To show that government workers are being moved from the fed to local and to emphasize how good it is?
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
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Tych2 posted:
Was that the intent of the thread? To show that government workers are being moved from the fed to local and to emphasize how good it is?
/shrug
To troll myself? To give me something to do so I don't have to read other threads, to help me procrastinate, to satisfy my curiosity in regards to a news story that I saw this morning...
Why do we make any threads that we make???
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illmyrin  Posts: 705
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reesescups posted:
Are you bitching about improvements in efficiency?
Like Sara Conner!
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Rosaria  Title: They call me Mellow Yellow, quite rightly.
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Tych2 posted:
Was that the intent of the thread? To show that government workers are being moved from the fed to local and to emphasize how good it is?
That's what I wondered as I read this thread.
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