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Lyndrek  3 stars
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Testerion posted:

China would win because USA wouldn't be able to go to China for funds needed to use all that snappy technology.



if there was war between the US and China, consider all the debt owned by China to be now null and void

US would have more then enough money.

 

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dae_trist  4 stars
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Lyndrek posted:

Testerion posted:

China would win because USA wouldn't be able to go to China for funds needed to use all that snappy technology.



if there was war between the US and China, consider all the debt owned by China to be now null and void

US would have more then enough money.



The US has physical assets and working IP worth some 1-2 trillion in the Asia Pacific region, China would be trading paper for tech and factories.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Groucho48 posted:

I read somewhere that our carriers have been pretty vulnerable to unorthodox attacks for quite a while. When war gaming, inventive opponents can generally wipe out a carrier pretty easily. It's so bad that there are all sorts of things opponents are no longer allowed to use against carriers in war game scenarios.



when geared towards high tech, low tech becomes incredibly overpowered.
ive brought this up here after many discussions with my 10yr+ navy employee...
our navy, aegis(?), is geared towards fast moving ballistic targets. aside from the helis and on board aircraft, there really is no defense against low tech, motor boats plowing up and jacking major military vessels.


i will, again, refer back to a book i read years ago, that dealt with exactly this scenario. the military tech outpaces the commoner abilities to adapt to it and use it efficiently.
at some point we have a closet full of tools that we dont understand but are told serve specific purposes that are beyond our comprehension to use. all though in the book i read is was all beyond their comprehension to use and we adapted to their tech better and faster than they did, despite the fact that theyd been using it for hundreds of thousands of years.

 

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Thugoneous  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-11-2 18:00:54
sweeny_comodore posted:

Groucho48 posted:

I read somewhere that our carriers have been pretty vulnerable to unorthodox attacks for quite a while. When war gaming, inventive opponents can generally wipe out a carrier pretty easily. It's so bad that there are all sorts of things opponents are no longer allowed to use against carriers in war game scenarios.



when geared towards high tech, low tech becomes incredibly overpowered.
ive brought this up here after many discussions with my 10yr+ navy employee...
our navy, aegis(?), is geared towards fast moving ballistic targets. aside from the helis and on board aircraft, there really is no defense against low tech, motor boats plowing up and jacking major military vessels.


i will, again, refer back to a book i read years ago, that dealt with exactly this scenario. the military tech outpaces the commoner abilities to adapt to it and use it efficiently.
at some point we have a closet full of tools that we dont understand but are told serve specific purposes that are beyond our comprehension to use. all though in the book i read is was all beyond their comprehension to use and we adapted to their tech better and faster than they did, despite the fact that theyd been using it for hundreds of thousands of years.



An Aircraft carrier isn't designed to defend itself, the strike group is. Look where the gun mounts are on board a cruiser, or find out what war shot from a 5" will do to a small boat.

Just because a Carrier is vulnerable by itself doesn't mean we're going to send it underway with zero support. Plus a lot of the arguments seem to believe that it will have none of it's Airwing in the sky. Our anti-ship missiles are devastating. I've watched a Decommissioned DDG absorb a lot of rounds/missiles from other Cruisers/DDGs (No torpedoes were used though) and it didn't start to list.

One missile from an F-18 split the thing in half. A lone carrier strike group can cripple another countries Navy.

Since the USS COLE attack ships run a lot of drills defending from speed boats.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Unsustainable growth, immense gender imbalances, immense wealth imbalances, corrupt business/goverment systems.....


China is on a path that within the next 20 or 30 years will result in a significant implosion.

 

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imaloon1  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
Lyndrek posted:

Testerion posted:

China would win because USA wouldn't be able to go to China for funds needed to use all that snappy technology.



if there was war between the US and China, consider all the debt owned by China to be now null and void

US would have more then enough money.



It's not that they own it.... It's that they would stop buying it....

 

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dae_trist  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-6-5 13:32:39
SoBaKi posted:

Unsustainable growth, immense gender imbalances, immense wealth imbalances, corrupt business/goverment systems.....

China is on a path that within the next 20 or 30 years will result in a significant implosion.



All are exaggerated. Their real problems are from what they're NOT doing, if anything.

 

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