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Groucho48  3 stars
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The thing I glean from this thread is that right wingers are shocked and amazed that the Democratic Party doesn't always do what its big donors want.

 

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Remnant_OBrien  2 stars
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With the subtext being: its bad that the Democratic party doesn't do exactly what its big donors want.

and the sub-subtext being: Republicans always do what their big donors want.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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One of the problems is that the power is not in the hands of the parents.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Good parents are more important than good schools. You cant fix this problem with money

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

ZigmundZag posted:

Yes, but the teachers' names are not part of data collection.



Wow. So at your typical school it could be that every single person in some teacher's class failed their tests, and everyone in another teacher's class passed, and no one would even ever know?

I can totally understand opposition to using that data to make hiring and firing decisions. But the idea that the school shouldn't even be allowed to KNOW how students in one teacher's class did relative to students in another teacher's class is mind-boggling to me.

It's not part of the data collection at the state level. Schools have to piece it together by themselves, based upon which students took the exams, and while I'm sure most districts do this, it's still pretty contentious as to who gets to see the data (typically their current and next years' teachers do, for what it's worth, at least at the elementary level...secondary gets more muddled).

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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In Los Angeles they didn't release the data but they did release the teacher's and the school's scores.

 

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Skinnyrumcakes  1 star
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Registered: 2002-1-10 10:41:25
Hitler would be proud of the teacher unions here in WA state!

 

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B_Shinkicker  3 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

B_Shinkicker posted:

Charter schools are good because it allows us to get away from brown people and stop spending money on them!







Stop spending money on them?? These charter schools exist because an unacceptable majority of tax payer dollars are going to these "brown people" in the public school system. When families get sick of their kids either getting a substandard education because the primary focus is on ESL, or their kids come home shitkicked because whites are the persecuted minority at a public school, they get the hell out and form their own schools.

Good for them!

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Does anyone else find it ironic that teachers unions oppose student/teacher evaluation and oppose charter schools. Then their explanation for why they oppose charter schools is that they don't score as well on student/teacher evaluations.

If unions don't believe those evaluations are a valid measure, then why do they use them as proof that regular public schools are superior?

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

B_Shinkicker posted:

Charter schools are good because it allows us to get away from brown people and stop spending money on them!



How does it reduce spending on brown people? Don't they cut spending proportionally to the number of people who leave?

If so then the spending per brown person would remain constant no matter what.

Walk us through the math Yuki.

 

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