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Desnoxvu  Posts: 363
Registered: 2002-3-21 11:48:50
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Major democratic donor goes OFF on dems in WA state. |
Moe_Nox posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
Actually all kids should be given the same test as a way to provide information to the parents so that they can make choices.
The idea that testing is a good way to determine funding is the real problem with NCLB, not the fact that testing is being done.
There is also a desperate need to remove the massive economic and educational incentives to segregate based on income and class.
Wow, someone actually applauded this statement? Teaching every child the same things handed down from DC is a good thing? I met 3 kids yesterday who were drop outs. Some people would think that is a bad thing but if you read the statists on this board you might understand why I was sympathetic to their choice.
Here is a video representing your local democrat VN poster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo
and for those that want more info.
Lysander Spooner (Not that any of you have heard of him)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewtA3qcm3fo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unconstitutionality_of_Slavery
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Sin_of_Onin  Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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Major democratic donor goes OFF on dems in WA state. |
Bonzoboy1 posted:
Evaluating teachers by any means is a pipe dream, the teachers unions won't allow it and it is painfully obvious that they are calling the shots.
Teachers are right to be afraid of the government and parents determining how they should and can be judged. It is an incredibly charged issue which results in the unions being over protective but not without a lot of legit reasons to have their guard up.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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Major democratic donor goes OFF on dems in WA state. |
Desnoxvu posted:
Wow, someone actually applauded this statement? Teaching every child the same things handed down from DC is a good thing? I met 3 kids yesterday who were drop outs. Some people would think that is a bad thing but if you read the statists on this board you might understand why I was sympathetic to their choice.
Here is a video representing your local democrat VN poster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo
and for those that want more info.
Lysander Spooner (Not that any of you have heard of him)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewtA3qcm3fo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unconstitutionality_of_Slavery
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Ptilk Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
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So a guy gives lots of money to Democrats, then forms a foundation that advocates for charter schools gets upset that even though he gave them a lot of money, the Democrats aren't giving him what he wants in return, so he writes a pissy memo and threatens to "have a talk" with some Republicans and mutters about giving them some money if the Democrats wont listen to him?
Big effing deal.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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ZigmundZag posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Are learning disabled/special needs kids lumped into the same category as the rest of the student body in WA? If so I could see a reasonable objection to being evaluated based on student performance if I have two or three LD kids in my class and the teacher next door has none.
You're asking what color the cars are in a state with no roads, Ash. How can students be lumped together for an evaluation that doesn't exist? The state does track the standard socioeconomic indicators (Special Ed, ELL and Free/Reduced meals) with respect to test performance, though.
Don't they have to take standardized tests as part of NCLB?
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ZigmundZag Title: Grammar Nazi
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
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Ashmaele posted:
ZigmundZag posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Are learning disabled/special needs kids lumped into the same category as the rest of the student body in WA? If so I could see a reasonable objection to being evaluated based on student performance if I have two or three LD kids in my class and the teacher next door has none.
You're asking what color the cars are in a state with no roads, Ash. How can students be lumped together for an evaluation that doesn't exist? The state does track the standard socioeconomic indicators (Special Ed, ELL and Free/Reduced meals) with respect to test performance, though.
Don't they have to take standardized tests as part of NCLB?
Yes, but the teachers' names are not part of data collection. There's a lot of resistance to doing so, as well. Some individual schools may choose to do this, but it requires an awesome principal who can actually develop trust with his or her teachers.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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ZigmundZag posted:
Yes, but the teachers' names are not part of data collection.
Wow. So at your typical school it could be that every single person in some teacher's class failed their tests, and everyone in another teacher's class passed, and no one would even ever know?
I can totally understand opposition to using that data to make hiring and firing decisions. But the idea that the school shouldn't even be allowed to KNOW how students in one teacher's class did relative to students in another teacher's class is mind-boggling to me.
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Rosaria Title: They call me Mellow Yellow, quite rightly.
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Registered: 2003-8-22 10:07:30
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I don't think it matters. The school system in the US will just become more of what it is now.
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Date Posted:
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Major democratic donor goes OFF on dems in WA state. |
Charter schools can serve a good purpose. North Carolina has an incredibly large number of charter schools that cater to mostly middle and upper class white families because white parents finally got tired of their children being beaten up by black children on a daily basis.
Charter schools also form when when the public schools start diverting 90% percent of their resources on catering to Spanish ESL students, and english speaking children start being placed on the back burner as they are the minority in these schools.
Good for them. If the government and the school board won't step in a do something, take the matter into your own hands.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Major democratic donor goes OFF on dems in WA state. |
B_Shinkicker posted:
Charter schools are good because it allows us to get away from brown people and stop spending money on them!
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