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Taliesihne  Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
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Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
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Economists Agree--The Stimulus Worked |
armoredgimp posted:
what are your taxes going to be in 6 months?
what expenses will you no longer be allowed to write off?
will your company be lynched for following the rules and paying what the law asks you to pay?
what new regulations will be put in place by unelected officials?
what new obligation will your business have and what will that cost per employee?
I would be uncertain too if I didn't realize that I needed answers from Congress to these questions.
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Grymlo  Posts: 415
Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
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Yep it worked.......real unemployment is over 12%, gas prices are going to be over 4 bucks or more soon and the debt..... 
Libs live in a world of their own.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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GrilledCheez posted:
The first question was retarded. If it created one job then it passed that one. The second one was equally retarded. Asking if it was worth the cost is dumb. When there is a downturn any braking you can do is good. What they should have asked is was it the best or most efficient or most effective thing that could have been done. I assume those numbers would be hugely different.
So the only thing this proves is that polls say what you want them to say.
"Most efficient" is a stupid question for a poll.
You are also answering the questions wrong from the standpoint on how an economist would be expected to answer the questions.
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Jaedence  Posts: 146
Registered: 2009-2-27 02:17:13
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cabbyman posted:
It makes that when times are good we spend way more than we take in and then when times are bad we spend way more than we take in.
That is very smrt.
When times are good the Republicans spend more than we take in and claim debt doesn't matter.
When the ship hits the fan, they claim we should cut taxes on the rich.
THAT is very "smrt."
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Jaedence Posts: 146
Registered: 2009-2-27 02:17:13
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GrilledCheez posted:
no real dent at all in unemployment and all the sudden the US economy is "going again?" WTF are you guys smoking? I mean certain indicators have been up and down for ten years, but our labor woes are not on the way out. If you believe they are you have a serious thinking problem.
Wages down. underemployment up. Benefits down and employee participation in costs are rising. Government payouts at an all time high. over all growth embarrassing, control for growth that affects local labor and it is negative.
if the stimulus worked and was worth the money why didn't they do it ten times and get us out of this mess?
It didn't' even look like a majority of economists thought the stimulus was worth it in what you quoted at top, even with the spurious definition used.
I'm probably more labor liberal than anyone else on this board. you guys being easy and pretending like almost conservative policies are all super awesome is as bad for american progressive thoughts and politics as cabbyman's opinions.
You deserve to lose.
The answer to all of your questions lies in the failure of trickle down economics.
Employment is at an all time low yet major companies are recording record profits and the wealthiest people in America keep giving themselves bonuses.
Who exactly do you think is the cause of wages being low and companies not hiring?
Could it be.... companies making record profits?
DING DING DING!!!
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
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Tych2 posted:
When gas hits $5 plus a gallon and the economy stalls and even slides backwards what will you claim then?
Let me predict your response. "It's the other guy's fault!".
Gee didn't see that coming.
When GWB went into Iraq, the Right proclaimed that gas prices would stablize AND lower. Didn't happen. Even with a DIRECT action taken by GWB to go into Iraq, gas prices only went up (Exxon is STILL recording record profits). Granted, demand for oil is up everyPHUCKINGwhere on the planet......
Now, with Obama, Iran starts to argle-bargle about the strait of hormuz, futures traders scream bloody murder inciting fear and forcing the price of a barrel of oil to go up, yet Obama hasn't done anything but keep a U.S. Navy presence in/near the Strait yet $5/per gallon for gas is because of Obama?
If it were up to me, given just how important oil is around the globe, ALL futures trading on oil would cease and desist. The goddamn commodity is too important (for EVERYTHING) to be used for gambling schmucks.
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
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Grymlo posted:
Yep it worked.......real unemployment is over 12%, gas prices are going to be over 4 bucks or more soon and the debt.....
Libs live in a world of their own.
Yeah, we know, when it's your guy, debt is GREAT!
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Grymlo Posts: 415
Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
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SoBaKi posted:
Grymlo posted:
Yep it worked.......real unemployment is over 12%, gas prices are going to be over 4 bucks or more soon and the debt.....
Libs live in a world of their own.
Yeah, we know, when it's your guy, debt is GREAT!
Yep that makes it ok for your guy 
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SoBaKi Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
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Grymlo posted:
SoBaKi posted:
Grymlo posted:
Yep it worked.......real unemployment is over 12%, gas prices are going to be over 4 bucks or more soon and the debt.....
Libs live in a world of their own.
Yeah, we know, when it's your guy, debt is GREAT!
Yep that makes it ok for your guy
Not at all, however, you'd likely get more support had you kept a more bi-partisan position during the 8 years of Bush. That fact that the left is yet again, forced to take the higher road, pretty much means at least adults are at the wheel.
At least until Frothy anal lube becomes president.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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SoBaKi posted:
If it were up to me, given just how important oil is around the globe, ALL futures trading on oil would cease and desist. The goddamn commodity is too important (for EVERYTHING) to be used for gambling schmucks.
 I can't argue with that.
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