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illmyrin  Posts: 705
Registered: 2001-12-25 11:52:26
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Tych2 posted:
I am curious, do you pay your income taxes illmyrin?
I don't know. Do a post history search and find out. Research baby research!
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illmyrin Posts: 705
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June 28, 2005
Joe Banister:
He Challenged The Income Tax
And Withholding Laws -- And He Won
Make no mistake: Joe Banister was indicted specifically because he took overt and very public actions that directly challenged the income tax and withholding laws.
In October of 2000, Joe Banister spoke to the employees of CENCAL, a company founded and controlled by Al Thompson. Banister told Thompson's workers that there was no legal authority that established that ordinary Americans, such as them, had to pay federal income taxes on the wages they made at CENCAL. During the meeting, Banister presented sufficient documentary evidence in support of his conclusions. Beginning in July of 2000, Thompson had stopped withholding the taxes from the compensation paid to the employees of CENCAL.
As detailed in one of the criminal counts against Banister, in 2000, Banister also prepared an amended 1998 individual income tax return for Thompson, representing that, per U.S. law, Thompson’s adjusted gross income and taxable income were “0,†(zero) not $66,192 and $42,251 as originally reported.
The government convinced a grand jury to indict Banister, setting the stage for a jury trial to determine whether Banister violated certain laws governing conspiracy and aiding and assisting in the filing of false tax returns. The government did not allow Banister to appear or present any exculpatory evidence to the grand jury.
Banister had, by his words and acts, directly challenged the legality of the operation and enforcement of the federal income tax system.
He was acquitted in large part because the government chose not to confront or attempt to rebut Banister's plain assertions that there is NO law that requires most Americans to pay a tax on their wages and that most companies are NOT required to withhold taxes on wages and turn it over to the IRS.
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illmyrin posted:
Eager_Igraine posted:
The great thing about Illy is his ability to completely ignore those things which prove his positions false and/or untenable, but only ignore them in fantasy world. We can be sure he pays his taxes like a good boy in reality.
Yet I posted a video with the head of the IRS unable to produce any law requiring you and I to file federal income taxes. It's a big lie. Of course it's protected. You can find 1000 quotes to support yourself and still be absolutely wrong. I spent years on this topic. Studied up down side to side from every angle. You can't tell me anything new on the topic and I've already concluded what my efforts lead me to understand about the subject. Glad to entertain.
I understand you've already made up your mind as to the "truth". That's why I don't bother like offering contradictory evidence I know you won't except. Instead, I challenge you to stand up for your truth and stop paying your taxes. In fact, you should take the IRS to court because you know you're right and have all the video evidence to prove your case. If you don't do so, you acknowledge that you just want it to be true, but you don't really believe it yourself.
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illmyrin Posts: 705
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Former IRS CID Special Agent Joseph Banister Acquitted of Tax Fraud And Conspiracy
Government Unable To Prove U.S. Law
Requires Income Tax Withholding or Filing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1UT2Ms5E2k&feature=related
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Tych2  Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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illmyrin posted:
Tych2 posted:
I am curious, do you pay your income taxes illmyrin?
I don't know.
 You don't know if you pay your income taxes? Well now things are starting to make sense. Please make sure you take your medication.
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Bobvillas Posts: 643
Registered: 2008-11-19 12:56:18
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illmyrin posted:
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Former IRS CID Special Agent Joseph Banister Acquitted of Tax Fraud And Conspiracy
Government Unable To Prove U.S. Law
Requires Income Tax Withholding or Filing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1UT2Ms5E2k&feature=related
Interestingly, Banister's attorney admitted that Banister had been paying his federal income taxes (which was apparently why he was not charged with tax evasion).
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imaloon1 Posts: 674
Registered: 2003-9-15 07:19:53
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Taliesihne posted:
illmyrin posted:
Was an individual income tax legal before the 16th amendment?
Irrelevant.
Once it was ratified, it was the law of the land. What existed before is no longer material.
No...
It was successfully challenged all the way up to the Supreme Court which ruled ONCE AGAIN THAT THE 16TH AMENDMENT DID NOT DO A GODDAMN THING TO GIVE CONGRESS MORE POWER THAN IT HAD BEFORE...
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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bstulic posted:
Any law about it?
depends on who you ask
the better question is, is the tax moral?
Slavery was legal ... But it was still wrong to do
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Scarne Title: Capo di Scientifico
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Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
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Brother_Tempus posted:
the better question is, is the tax moral?
Yes. 
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NuEM Posts: 1,007
Registered: 2004-3-2 09:08:11
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No one forces you to pay taxes. Move to a deserted island and live free. But as long as you're member of that club you're bound to its rules. Since membership is voluntary the rules can't be immoral.
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