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illmyrin  3 stars
Posts: 705
Registered: 2001-12-25 11:52:26
Kjarhall posted:

This is such a stupid topic.

What do you 'taxation is illegal' idiots think would happen if no one paid federal taxes?

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Nothing at all would happen. Federal taxes are 100% absorbed on our interest towards our federal reserve debt. Your question might seem common sense obvious but you're wrong in your assumption about what the federal income tax goes towards. Absent the income tax, our taxation system worked great for over 150 years. You do know that "state" taxes do stuff right?

 

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Koneg  3 stars
Title: Evil Genius
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Registered: 2001-12-4 15:31:28
imaloon1 posted:

Which was never ratified by the states fully and was ruled by the Supreme Court to give Congress NO NEW TAXATION POWERS.

It was properly ratified, and the SCOTUS is so frikken tired of people arguing about it that if you file a case in federal court contesting the validity of the 16th Amendment you could end up getting your ass disbarred, as filing such a case is evidence of incompetence.


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Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
illmyrin posted:

Kjarhall posted:

This is such a stupid topic.

What do you 'taxation is illegal' idiots think would happen if no one paid federal taxes?

*waits patiently for a few unrealistic answers that sound great on the surface but are actually built on stupid*



Nothing at all would happen. Federal taxes are 100% absorbed on our interest towards our federal reserve debt. Your question might seem common sense obvious but you're wrong in your assumption about what the federal income tax goes towards. Absent the income tax, our taxation system worked great for over 150 years. You do know that "state" taxes do stuff right?



You do know that this country isn't nearly the same as it was in 1850? And that fed taxes pay for stuff?

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Ask Wesley Snipes what happened when he chose not to pay taxes.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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Bonzoboy1 posted:

Ask Wesley Snipes what happened when he chose not to pay taxes.



Snipes failed to file on earnings earned overseas, which is taxable.

 

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JarkeldRuneblade
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Registered: 2002-9-21 14:39:50
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes,
from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several
States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

illmyrin fails this thread, it's legal.

I don't think illmyrin gets finance, if you sucked trillions of dollars out of the federal government a lot would happen.

On both fronts there can be an argument on what is right or wrong, but not what is reality.

 

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illmyrin  3 stars
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Registered: 2001-12-25 11:52:26
Yea I remember when it was as simple as that. Funny thing about words though. Like "law" and "income" and "taxable".


There is no law. Period. End of story. NO law. There is a law against J walking. There are laws against theft. There are regulations, statutes and codified definitions on the books for EVERY single thing that is a law in this country. If you get charged with a crime, you broke a law. That law can be found within your states or the federal legal framework. Below is an example.


Quote:

NY Code - Section 240.35: Loitering

A person is guilty of loitering when he:
1. Loiters, remains or wanders about in a public place for the purpose
of begging; or
2. Loiters or remains in a public place for the purpose of gambling
with cards, dice or other gambling paraphernalia; or
3. Loiters or remains in a public place for the purpose of engaging,
or soliciting another person to engage, in oral sexual conduct, anal
sexual conduct or other sexual behavior of a deviate nature; or
4. Being masked or in any manner disguised by unusual or unnatural
attire or facial alteration, loiters, remains or congregates in a public
place with other persons so masked or disguised, or knowingly permits or
aids persons so masked or disguised to congregate in a public place;
except that such conduct is not unlawful when it occurs in connection
with a masquerade party or like entertainment if, when such
entertainment is held in a city which has promulgated regulations in
connection with such affairs, permission is first obtained from the
police or other appropriate authorities; or
5. Loiters or remains in or about school grounds, a college or
university building or grounds or a children's overnight camp as defined
in section one thousand three hundred ninety-two of the public health
law or a summer day camp as defined in section one thousand three
hundred ninety-two of the public health law, or loiters, remains in or
enters a school bus as defined in section one hundred forty-two of the
vehicle and traffic law, not having any reason or relationship involving
custody of or responsibility for a pupil or student, or any other
specific, legitimate reason for being there, and not having written
permission from anyone authorized to grant the same or loiters or
remains in or about such children's overnight camp or summer day camp in
violation of conspicuously posted rules or regulations governing entry
and use thereof; or
6. Loiters or remains in any transportation facility, unless
specifically authorized to do so, for the purpose of soliciting or
engaging in any business, trade or commercial transactions involving the
sale of merchandise or services, or for the purpose of entertaining
persons by singing, dancing or playing any musical instrument; or
7. Loiters or remains in any transportation facility, or is found
sleeping therein, and is unable to give a satisfactory explanation of
his presence.
Loitering is a violation.



That is why you can be charged with violating the law if you're loitering. Follow me so far? There is NO law requiring you to file a federal income tax return if you're an avg citizen in the USA who earns money from their labor. Investments, overseas earnings most corporate payroll and government pay is not included in my statement. There are laws on the books covering those areas of taxation.

I could add another 700 posts to my post count on this subject but it's useless. For you to get my point I'd have to assume you'd read the 50-60 various posts I'd back claims with.

 

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DemonicXH  3 stars
Title: Camelot Vault Staff
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Posts: 584
Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
So the U.S. constitution and all the court rulings since are not law?
GrilledCheez  4 stars
Title: The Lord's Balls
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
not "technically" legal? WTF are you morans talking about in here?

 

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Scarne  4 stars
Title: Capo di Scientifico
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Registered: 2001-7-23 15:24:34
illmyrin posted:

There is no law. Period. End of story. NO law.


Internal Revenue Code section 1

 

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