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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
Moe_Nox posted:

Apparently you cannot read a chart either, to see where prices were when Obama took office.

If you think demonstrating that these current prices fall to Obama's responsibility not ZOMGBUSH is finger pointing, then yeah.. leave the heavy thinking for others.



I guess in a world where there are two choices, blame Bush or blame Obama your argument makes sense.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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As opposed to your world where the options are blame Bush.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
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Bowlartz posted:

I am pretty sure the supply of oil right now is out pacing demand by quite a bit. In the US alone we are closing refineries and shipping gasoline to other countries because we are swimming in the stuff.


The real fix is to significantly raise taxes on commodities traders profits from oil and gasoline...to the tune of 50-60%. Make it bad investment.


Capitalism is still the best system but it needs *proper* rules to prevent it from being one of the worst.



This is wrong.


The supply of gasoline in the US outpaces the demand in the US. So we export.


Gasoline and oil are not the same thing. Supply/demand for an end use product in one country shouldnt be confused with worldwide supply/demand for a raw material.
Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
I don't like these gas prices and I am going to lash out against them to the people in charge when I am able to.

That being said I wish we would stop being the world's police and devote that money towards energy independence.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Tych2 posted:

I don't like these gas prices and I am going to lash out against them to the people in charge when I am able to.


That being said I wish we would stop being the world's police and devote that money towards energy independence.



So you're going to sell off your Exxon, Shell, BP, etc stock?

 

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Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Apparently I need to actually spell out everything. When I say people in charge I mean the people in charge that I can have an effect on. Politicians. They will get my wrath in the form of my not voting for them.

I have no idea what stocks I own. My financial guy does. If he loses me money then I get someone else. Pretty simple.

So I have no idea if I have Exxon, Shell, BP, or etc.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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I however have an excellent idea. God bless Marathon Oil.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
It's funny to watch normally self-proclaimed free market crusaders demanding the government intervene to bring down gas prices. What ever happened to "if you don't like the price, don't buy it?"


And don't cry to me about how you don't have a choice. You do. You always have a choice! It's not anyone else's fault you built your life around cheap oil and driving an hour each way to work so you could live in your sterile McMansion in your sterile suburb bedroom community.


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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Tych2 posted:

Politicians. They will get my wrath in the form of my not voting for them.



Politicians don't control gas prices. Punishing them for something they can't control is about like taking a baseball bat to your car because it snowed outside and you can't use it.
theredkay1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
Do you live close to work to shorten your commute? Do you own the most efficient (MPG) car within your price range? Do you buy local products? Have you made sure your retail electric provider isnt using oil burning power generation? Have you stopped flying and buying things and moved into an unpowered hut?


If not make sure you rap your own knuckles.

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