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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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I am pretty sure it's not the DOE's or the federal governments job to nationalize our energy sources. There fore, I don't really see what the DoE or the Federal Government can really do to private oil companies to force them into a price structure that doesn't allow them the huge profits they are raping us with.

Hell we already pay the oil companies billions upon billions (possibly trillions) in subsidizes, what more can we really do to help the oil companies and convince them not to rape us?


No - it should be the aim and goal of the DoE and Federal Government to sponsor research and implementation projects that are strategic for reaching long term sustainability and independence from energy sources outside of our immediate sphere of influence.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Sansfear posted:

OIL WILL LAST FOREEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRR!

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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First priority is making sure everyone has enough affordable energy. After that is done then push to go green.
$5/gallon gas and random brown outs across the power grid is NOT getting business done.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Moe_Nox posted:

First priority is making sure everyone has enough affordable energy. After that is done then push to go green.

$5/gallon gas and random brown outs across the power grid is NOT getting business done.



Too late. It's been discussed over an over again, between unstable environments (political, economical, culture) to increased cost of oil extraction, affordable energy discussions and actions SHOULD have started several decades ago. It's now too late.

 

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Taliesihne  4 stars
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Whoops, wrong thread

 

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Bowlartz  1 star
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I am pretty sure the supply of oil right now is out pacing demand by quite a bit. In the US alone we are closing refineries and shipping gasoline to other countries because we are swimming in the stuff.


The real fix is to significantly raise taxes on commodities traders profits from oil and gasoline...to the tune of 50-60%. Make it bad investment.


Capitalism is still the best system but it needs *proper* rules to prevent it from being one of the worst.

 

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Scarne  4 stars
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Moe_Nox posted:

First priority is making sure everyone has enough affordable energy.


Only way for everyone to have enough affordable energy is for the government to more heavily subsidize it. So you are going to have to increase taxes on something else in order to provide for this energy subsidy you want (or go the Bush route of unfunded spending and increase the debt).

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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SoBaKi posted:

Moe_Nox posted:

First priority is making sure everyone has enough affordable energy. After that is done then push to go green.
$5/gallon gas and random brown outs across the power grid is NOT getting business done.


Too late. It's been discussed over an over again, between unstable environments (political, economical, culture) to increased cost of oil extraction, affordable energy discussions and actions SHOULD have started several decades ago. It's now too late.

If the liberals plan is 'OMG TOO LATE' then step the fook out of the way and stop impeding progress.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Moe_Nox posted:

SoBaKi posted:

Moe_Nox posted:

First priority is making sure everyone has enough affordable energy. After that is done then push to go green.
$5/gallon gas and random brown outs across the power grid is NOT getting business done.


Too late. It's been discussed over an over again, between unstable environments (political, economical, culture) to increased cost of oil extraction, affordable energy discussions and actions SHOULD have started several decades ago. It's now too late.

If the liberals plan is 'OMG TOO LATE' then step the fook out of the way and stop impeding progress.

That right thar is a 180 fisted point of view....

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Moe_Nox posted:

SoBaKi posted:

Moe_Nox posted:

First priority is making sure everyone has enough affordable energy. After that is done then push to go green.

$5/gallon gas and random brown outs across the power grid is NOT getting business done.



Too late. It's been discussed over an over again, between unstable environments (political, economical, culture) to increased cost of oil extraction, affordable energy discussions and actions SHOULD have started several decades ago. It's now too late.

If the liberals plan is 'OMG TOO LATE' then step the fook out of the way and stop impeding progress.



What phucking progress are you talking about? The pipeline from Canada?





The ONLY viable progress is one in which we don't rely on oil as our primary energy source.


You stupid, phucking crunt.

 

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