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Sin_of_Onin
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Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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I went to a liberal arts Catholic College that helped teach me how to think. When I graduated I was a Republican.
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cabbyman
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Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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Yukishiro1 posted:
cabbyman posted:
If two consenting adults can get married, why can't three consenting adults get married?
I edited in a longer response. I don't think it means they can't. It's just a bad comparison because logistically the system has to be changed much more dramatically to accomodate polygamy.
Letting two men marry eachother is easy. Letting three people marry eachother gets very complicated.
Why are we disenfranchising these people just because it's hard?
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Sinlock
Title: Savior of the Camelot Outpost
Posts: 376
Registered: 2000-5-14 16:20:01
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cabbyman posted:
If two consenting adults can get married, why can't three consenting adults get married?
I actually agree. I think the only bare minimum is that marriage should only allow consenting adult (in before bestiality claim) human beings - but the combination and number should be up to the participants.
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Yukishiro1
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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cabbyman posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
cabbyman posted:
If two consenting adults can get married, why can't three consenting adults get married?
I edited in a longer response. I don't think it means they can't. It's just a bad comparison because logistically the system has to be changed much more dramatically to accomodate polygamy.
Letting two men marry eachother is easy. Letting three people marry eachother gets very complicated.
Why are we disenfranchising these people just because it's hard?
If you want to get on the legalize polygamy bandwagon go for it. It's going to cost a lot of time and money and we're going to have to hire a ton of people to deal with it but if the demand is there maybe that's money well spent.
It isn't a reason not to let two guys get married in the meantime. Because that doesn't take a lot of time and money. It's very easy. It creates no new legal issues at all.
Number is different than kind. Maybe we should allow flexibility in both, but logistical problems with the one shouldn't prevent the other.
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Tych2
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
Posts: 2,511
Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Yukishiro1 posted:
Marriages of 3+ raise a lot of conceptual and legal issues that marriages between two people don't raise. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed, but to try to compare allowing gay marriage to allowing polygamy is stupid because the issues are so different in practical terms. Letting two men get married doesn't raise any new issues that don't exist with letting a man and a woman get married.
And they would have to change all the tax laws. The one that jumps out at me is Injured Spouse (8379)
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cabbyman
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Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
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I think any number of wieners should be able to sword fight without the government interfering.
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Taliesihne
Title: Wind on the Deep Waters
Posts: 1,117
Registered: 2004-2-19 04:47:59
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Tych2 posted:
Is the NY Times the one Tali calls Moonie Times and discounts everything they report?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Myung_Moon
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Tych2
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Yeah Skonk set me straight.
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Yukishiro1
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Tych2 posted:
Yukishiro1 posted:
Marriages of 3+ raise a lot of conceptual and legal issues that marriages between two people don't raise. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed, but to try to compare allowing gay marriage to allowing polygamy is stupid because the issues are so different in practical terms. Letting two men get married doesn't raise any new issues that don't exist with letting a man and a woman get married.
And they would have to change all the tax laws. The one that jumps out at me is Injured Spouse (8379)
There's tons of other stuff too. Changing the number of people that can get married has massive consequences that cascade all through the legal system.
With gay marriage, you can just pass a bill tomorrow letting any two consenting adults get married. That's the end of it. All the legal framework already exists. It costs you nothing.
A polygamy bill would probably end up being thousands of pages. Doesn't mean it shouldn't happen necessarily, but there are a lot of issues you have to work through. It's not something you can just do tomorrow and be done with.
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eodoll
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Registered: 2002-2-14 12:35:42
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College Doesn't Make You Liberal
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cabbyman posted:
eodoll posted:
Is allowing gays to get married a liberal thing? It seems like common sense to allow two men or two women to get married. I dont think thats something college teaches you, thats something life teaches you.
Why can't three people get married?
Im fine with that and any combo of men/women. New laws would have to be developed to support this situatiin though so it might take longer than homosexual marriage. I dont see whats blocking same sex marriages.
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