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Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
People are already more liberal at that age. Conservatism grows in people after they've been beaten down by life for a few more decades.

I bet even Fist was less conservative when he was 20 than he is now.

 

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Modeeb  4 stars
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I had exactly one conservative art professor.

 

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Vydor  1 star
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Kjarhall posted:

People are already more liberal at that age. Conservatism grows in people after they've been beaten down by life for a few more decades.

I bet even Fist was less conservative when he was 20 than he is now.



I was going to say this. I was pretty liberal when I left home and started out on my own. Those views changed quickly though when I was forced to provide for myself and family.

 

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Tych2  4 stars
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Vydor posted:

I was pretty liberal when I left home and started out on my own. Those views changed quickly though when I was forced to provide for myself and family.

That's usually the progression. Although I will add nothing is static. I used to be extremely liberal in my teens and 20s. Once I had kids and a family I leaned more towards the right. As I am aging and my kids are no longer children I am leaning back towards my original liberal roots.

It's funny what having children do to you.

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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eodoll posted:

Is allowing gays to get married a liberal thing? It seems like common sense to allow two men or two women to get married. I dont think thats something college teaches you, thats something life teaches you.



Why can't three people get married?

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
People don't get more conservative as they get older.

"Conservatives" get more conservative as they get older.

Sure, some confused and mindless 20 year olds do a 180 and turn into the exact opposite of what they thought they sorta might believe when they were kids, but most people don't.

The reason older people are often more conservative than younger people isn't because the old person moved to the right, it's because the entire country has been continually moving to the left for the vast majority of it's existence.
Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
cabbyman posted:

eodoll posted:

Is allowing gays to get married a liberal thing? It seems like common sense to allow two men or two women to get married. I dont think thats something college teaches you, thats something life teaches you.



Why can't three people get married?



Probably logistical and conceptual problems with how to catagorize the relationships. Are all three of them all married to eachother? Because most polygamous marriages arn't like that. It's one guy married to two women, but the two women arn't married to eachother.


If the two women are married to the dude but not to eachother, all sorts of problems crop up when one of the marriages fails and in relation to things like consent.


There'd also be the problem of what limits to set if not 2. Clearly you can't have thousands of people all married to eachother. Sorting out the inevitable divorce would take the entire court system of the united states.


Marriages of 3+ raise a lot of conceptual and legal issues that marriages between two people don't raise. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed, but to try to compare allowing gay marriage to allowing polygamy is stupid because the issues are so different in practical terms. Letting two men get married doesn't raise any new issues that don't exist with letting a man and a woman get married.
cabbyman  2 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

cabbyman posted:

eodoll posted:

Is allowing gays to get married a liberal thing? It seems like common sense to allow two men or two women to get married. I dont think thats something college teaches you, thats something life teaches you.



Why can't three people get married?



Probably logistical and conceptual problems with how to catagorize the relationships. Are all three of them all married to eachother? Because most polygamous marriages arn't like that. It's one guy married to two women, but the two women arn't married to eachother.

If the two women are married to the dude but not to eachother, all sorts of problems crop up when one of the marriages fails and in relation to things like consent.



If two consenting adults can get married, why can't three consenting adults get married?

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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Ptilk posted:

People don't get more conservative as they get older.

"Conservatives" get more conservative as they get older.

Sure, some confused and mindless 20 year olds do a 180 and turn into the exact opposite of what they thought they sorta might believe when they were kids, but most people don't.

The reason older people are often more conservative than younger people isn't because the old person moved to the right, it's because the entire country has been continually moving to the left for the vast majority of it's existence.



Sorry Ptilk. Your hippie generation is dying out. Once they're gone this country is going to swing right again.

The mistakes of the 60's will be corrected.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
cabbyman posted:

If two consenting adults can get married, why can't three consenting adults get married?



I edited in a longer response. I don't think it means they can't. It's just a bad comparison because logistically the system has to be changed much more dramatically to accomodate polygamy.


Letting two men marry eachother is easy. Letting three people marry eachother gets very complicated.

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