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Sezyrrith  2 stars
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IMHO posted:

Tych2 posted:

IMHO posted:

I may never know if God actually exists, but looking at the miracle of our universe, I have faith He does. If you guys choose to hold on to your limited reality, who am I to stop you.



You are making a critical mistake. I don't care about your faith and you think I do. I don't care what you believe that's personal to you. Why do you fundies just as fundie atheists feel the need to tell us your beliefs? You both make threads like what you think is important to everyone and you NEED everyone to know it.

I am laughing at you, but not for the reason you think.



I've noticed, you don't care about my faith and you can't argue with my logic.

Logic doesn't apply to faith. Logic applies to facts - not to be confused with experiences and beliefs.

Facts have to be supported and provable. You can't prove God exists, therefore that is a belief, which is why it's called faith. If you could prove God existed, then it would no longer be faith, and you wouldn't have to believe - you would know, and it would be a fact.

 

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Sezyrrith  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-7-13 05:04:05
[Edit:]Deleted. Exhausted and sick, so it apparently doesn't make as much sense as I'd thought. Would have helped if I weren't distracted while posting.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
Posts: 1,216
Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
Sezyrrith posted:

Logic doesn't apply to faith. Logic applies to facts - not to be confused with experiences and beliefs.

Facts have to be supported and provable. You can't prove God exists, therefore that is a belief, which is why it's called faith. If you could prove God existed, then it would no longer be faith, and you wouldn't have to believe - you would know, and it would be a fact.



you should have just left it with that.


everything you posted afterwards makes you look stupid and kinda negates what i quoted.

 

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Halloweve  2 stars
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Registered: 2004-3-6 10:19:02
Tych2 posted:

IMHO posted:

I may never know if God actually exists, but looking at the miracle of our universe, I have faith He does. If you guys choose to hold on to your limited reality, who am I to stop you.



You are making a critical mistake. I don't care about your faith and you think I do. I don't care what you believe that's personal to you. Why do you fundies just as fundie atheists feel the need to tell us your beliefs? You both make threads like what you think is important to everyone and you NEED everyone to know it.


I am laughing at you, but not for the reason you think.



That actually makes sense to me. As far as making it plain on how you feel, rather than just throwing up insults. Clear and to the point.


We can't show one another proof, no matter how strongly we feel one way or the other.

It is up to each individual to choose his way and it is pointless beyond measure to argue our points.

~peace
IMHO  4 stars
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Sezyrrith posted:

]Logic doesn't apply to faith.



Logic can influence faith.

Can you show me any fault in my logic?

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
youre wrong.

there is scientific evidence of everything we have said.
there is valid evidence to support our side.

there is nothing on your side
which, by definition, supports our side.


we dont have to disprove god.
burden of proof on you. not us.
if you want to be taken seriously, then show us even a hint of proof, something we can test and hypothesize around.

 

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Manegarm  4 stars
Title: European Imperialist Good Guy
Posts: 1,964
Registered: 2003-8-11 10:01:52
BubbleDude posted:

Manegarm posted:

critical of what you really experienced



I was and am more critical than you can even comprehend. My experiences are mine, and they don't lie.

Spew some more crap to make yourself feel better. Have another drink while you're at it.



Sorry a critical functioning mind would not plummet to the depth of accepting magic just because it "feels right", that's the absence of critical thought.

I love how you people always talk about your faith and substance abuse in the same breath.. It's almost like you weaklings would not have the one without the other.


IMHO posted:

I have to agree with you Bubble. Mammy is the Fred Phelps of Atheism. I always find it amazing how they call for logic and then start talking trash and arblegrable. I've done nothing but try to educate him on my faith and he turns it into he's no going to try and educate me

Kind of like someone trying to educate Fred Phelps on homosexuality. Phelps or Mammy won't have anything to do with it. They can't prove it is wrong but will insist that it should be obvious to everyone. What a weak way to debate.

I've slapped Mammy, Reese and Tych around with logic and they just return fire with insults. They are like scared children in the dark unwilling to face the monster under the bed, which isn't a monster at all.



Aaaw you found another uneducated plebe to pat your back how cute.

The only thing you've slapped around is the quality of whatever education you got in your formative years, they obviously did a poor job with you since you seem to adhere to pseudo-science instead of facts.

Faith and scripture and science can NOT be used in the same way. Science is derived from clinical observation, the scientific process and peer review. While religion never changes it just schisms when two parties disagree on which hat is more godly, same book same religion different hats and a few million casualties. And what you've been waving around isn't logic, it's ignorance.

And you've if anything been ridiculed and mocked by every sane person in this thread, not even Snarf is as bold as to go as far off into the deep end as you.. Then again he does have a college degree so that might explain why.

As for open minded you've even give the slightest hint that you could be persuaded to the idea that there is no god, your mind is shut.. Hell you've even gone so far as to replace facts with religious pseudo-science.

I on the other hand I am just asking for a bit of proof, I mean just a sliver of proof.. My mind remains open to the idea of god.

 

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sweeny_comodore  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-8-23 18:47:04
IMHO posted:

Sezyrrith posted:

]Logic doesn't apply to faith.



Logic can influence faith.

Can you show me any fault in my logic?





you misunderstand the difference between logic and feelings


knowing there isnt a god is the same as knowing there isnt a santa clause or unicorn.
stop being retarded and childish

 

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reesescups  4 stars
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
IMHO posted:

I've slapped Mammy, Reese and Tych around with logic and they just return fire with insults.

 

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Halloweve posted:

We can't show one another proof, no matter how strongly we feel one way or the other.
It is up to each individual to choose his way and it is pointless beyond measure to argue our points.
~peace



All I have attempted to do was show my logic at how I arrived at my faith. My logic shows that it is arrogant to not have faith.

 

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