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She's sexy in a hot Vulcan kind of way.
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Cawlin  Posts: 1,759
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Allstarslacker posted:
Cawlin posted:
Allstarslacker posted:
Men are disposable.
Once we've planted the seed our only purpose is to protect and provide for it's carrier.
Biologically speaking that is.
And 9 months later, the woman is disposable too, in fact, 19 out of 20 women only need to exist for about 14 years, biologically speaking right? One woman can take care of about 20 kids in the proper setting. We've got formula so breast milk is unnecessary too...
Obviously my remark is sarcastic, attempting to show the futility of the "biologically speaking" argument in an era of human existence where the extinction of the species is not reliant on biological imperatives as it might have thousands of years ago.
As I watched the video linked in the OP, I kept thinking about the phrase: "There are no atheists in foxholes", and I wondered how many feminists there would be in foxholes too, or how many feminists might be on the deck of a sinking ship rather than in the life boats...
Like it or not the reality is that certain unpleasant tasks will always fall on the shoulders of men.
Not because we're the only ones that should do them, but because we're the only ones who can/will. We are bigger, stronger and more aggressive. Men, in general, will always be better suited for certain tasks than women. And women will be better suited for certain tasks than men.
The genders are different, and we have different roles. That's how it is.
Oh I've got not issue with that, and am far from railing against it. I just object to the continued selective double standard that says men are disposable and women should in every other way be considered identical but should not be considered disposable.
I'm pretty happy with general equality, all things considered and recognize the biology as well or better than anyone. I just think it takes a particular brand of ignorance to advocate equality in every aspect except for the societal consideration of the value of the life of one sex over the life of another.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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GrymmDAOC posted:
Phlegm573 posted:
Most feminists do not want to either live completely sexless lives or become Whores of Babylon, despite what FoxNews wants you to believe. Most just want to be seen as people first, where their brains or hearts are more important than their genitalia. It's a shocking topic, I know.
As an aside, I do not understand why any male would ever object to women getting to have more sex. Well, unless that male were  or  .
And so begins the shaming language.
Yep, that's the standard reply. The sad thing is that the guys with the "shaming language" as you put, think they're being "manly" or "masculine" but in reality they are just as bad or worse than the feminists.
GrymmDAOC posted:
An interesting statement, but utterly irrelevant to the idea that the lives and interests of men are considered to be disposable.
Agreed. It is utterly irrelevant to the discussion - that's the intent of this and of all the language like this - to turn the discussion into something it's not with a spurious correlation, again, as part of the effort to discredit one side of the argument.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Taliesihne posted:
Btw, totally inappropriate for the thread, but she's sexy.What can I say, I'm a guy - I can't help it.
She is totally hot. Definitely sexy on an intellectual level - well spoken with a big beautiful brain to go along with the rest of her physical beauty.
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Cawlin posted:
Oh I've got not issue with that, and am far from railing against it. I just object to the continued selective double standard that says men are disposable and women should in every other way be considered identical but should not be considered disposable.
I'm pretty happy with general equality, all things considered and recognize the biology as well or better than anyone. I just think it takes a particular brand of ignorance to advocate equality in every aspect except for the societal consideration of the value of the life of one sex over the life of another.
Society functions better when there are more females than males.
Having a large population of useless males is a problem. It is often self correcting, but the aftermath can be ugly.
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Allstarslacker posted:
Cawlin posted:
Oh I've got not issue with that, and am far from railing against it. I just object to the continued selective double standard that says men are disposable and women should in every other way be considered identical but should not be considered disposable.
I'm pretty happy with general equality, all things considered and recognize the biology as well or better than anyone. I just think it takes a particular brand of ignorance to advocate equality in every aspect except for the societal consideration of the value of the life of one sex over the life of another.
Society functions better when there are more females than males.
Having a large population of useless males is a problem. It is often self correcting, but the aftermath can be ugly.
So Eugenics is what you're advocating?
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More like natural selection.
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Allstarslacker posted:
More like natural selection.
Really - setting aside prostate cancer, what significant sex based natural selection paradigms do you see acting on the population that aren't socially derived and which don't have a correlating equivalent or nearly so for the other sex?
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Men are more aggressive than women.
They are more likely the commit violent crimes, or pursue careers where violence is part of their job.
Our nation has been engaged in a prolonged armed conflict, and it looks like the future is filled with even more wars.
Wars that will be fought predominantly by males.
War is what happens when you have a lot of useless males. Then there is a baby boom after you win a war and your strongest males come back to a horny and lonely female heavy population.
Then the cycle repeats.
That's human nature.
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Cawlin Posts: 1,759
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Allstarslacker posted:
Men are more aggressive than women.
They are more likely the commit violent crimes, or pursue careers where violence is part of their job.
Our nation has been engaged in a prolonged armed conflict, and it looks like the future is filled with even more wars.
Wars that will be fought predominantly by males.
War is what happens when you have a lot of useless males. The baby boom is what happens after you win a war and your strongest males come back to a horny and lonely female heavy population.
Then the cycle repeats.
That's human nature.
Those are all social paradigms, not natural ones.
Further the baby boom wasn't so much about coming back from a war, it was the culmination of 15 or 20 years - an entire generation's worth of hardship in America coming to an end. Remember the Great Depression was a major issue just prior to WW2.
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