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Tych2  4 stars
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: New CBO estimate increases 10-year cost of Obamacare from $940B to $1.76T
Yup.. your type of person!

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: New CBO estimate increases 10-year cost of Obamacare from $940B to $1.76T
paulg_68 posted:
The price of healthcare is shooting up way faster since Obamacare passed than was expected before Obamacare passed.

I'm sure Libtards will blame that on Bush too.




No it isn't.

 

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Dcomad
Posts: 35
Registered: 2002-2-15 16:56:23
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: New CBO estimate increases 10-year cost of Obamacare from $940B to $1.76T
Tych2 posted:
Ashmaele posted:
paulg_68 posted:
So you think that adding millions of new patients and no new doctors is going to make wait times shorter?



Link to "no new doctors" being added in the future?

Look at what is happening and happened in MA when Romneycare went into effect. More doctors will be added eventually, but the wait times here are crazy now.



Then add the fact that there are many doctors now who will not take any more Medicare or Medicade patients. Alaska has that problem now (and has had that problem).

Government always pays less and the wait time for the payment is pretty bad too.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Registered: 2009-7-27 18:45:54
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: New CBO estimate increases 10-year cost of Obamacare from $940B to $1.76T
Kjarhall posted:
paulg_68 posted:
You want a link to the absence of something?

I think you should run your numbers again too.




Umm, that means you can't prove your statement either, sparky.


I can't prove unicorns don't exist. The fact that no one has ever seen one leans things in that direction though.

The burden here is on Ashmaele to prove that Obamacare is going to magic a hundred thousand new doctors into existence by 2014. It's not my job to prove that it won't.

 

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DemonicXH  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-12-1 08:14:17
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: New CBO estimate increases 10-year cost of Obamacare from $940B to $1.76T
Groucho48 posted:
paulg_68 posted:
The price of healthcare is shooting up way faster since Obamacare passed than was expected before Obamacare passed.

I'm sure Libtards will blame that on Bush too.




No it isn't.



In 2011 health insurance rates jumped up 9%, the highest increase since 2005.
Sansfear  3 stars
Posts: 757
Registered: 2008-8-31 05:04:52
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: New CBO estimate increases 10-year cost of Obamacare from $940B to $1.76T
Had to insert the obligatory "If you think health care is expensive now, wait till it is free!"
Groucho48  3 stars
Posts: 821
Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: New CBO estimate increases 10-year cost of Obamacare from $940B to $1.76T
DemonicXH posted:
Groucho48 posted:
paulg_68 posted:
The price of healthcare is shooting up way faster since Obamacare passed than was expected before Obamacare passed.

I'm sure Libtards will blame that on Bush too.




No it isn't.



In 2011 health insurance rates jumped up 9%, the highest increase since 2005.



Health care is a bit different than health insurance, but, even so, saying it went up at the fastest rate in 6 years isn't exactly a convincing argument that it is shooting up faster than ever.

For the decade 1999-2009, health insurance costs went up 131%


Quote:
Since 1999, health insurance premiums for families rose 131%, the report found, far more than the general rate of inflation, which increased 28% over the same period. Overall, health care in the United States is expected to cost $2.6 trillion this year, or 17% of the nation’s economy, according to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office.

Read more: http://moneyland.time.com/2009/09/16/health-insurance-premiums-up-131-in-last-ten-years/#ixzz1p8qh25cJ



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Quote:
Over the past decade, premiums have risen steadily, with double-digit increases seen from 2000-2004, the Kaiser survey and other tracking reports show. Growth in premiums moderated starting in 2006, averaging about 5 percent for several years, the survey found.



If you google around, you will also find claims that the requirement in Obamacare to review any increase in premiums of more than 10% has had a moderating effect, but, it's hard to prove that is the sole or main reason.

 

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Groucho48  3 stars
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Registered: 2003-10-22 03:00:14
 Date Posted: 1/1/00 12:01am Subject: New CBO estimate increases 10-year cost of Obamacare from $940B to $1.76T
Just saw this on the Maddow show...Before Romneycare, which is basically Obamacare with fewer cost constraints, Mass. insurance premiums were growing at a rate far higher than the national average, since Romneycare, it is rising slightly at a lower rate than the national average. Citizen satisfaction with the health care they do get is up considerably, too.

Preview of what is to come under Obamacare? We report, you decide.

 

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