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I am pretty sure people fighting against health care for everyone have to be the stupidest people on the planet.

My wife had a routine DR.'s appt yesterday. We sat in the waiting room for 45 minutes.

I lived in Spain for five years and not only did I never have to wait that long, but the doctor could usually see me immediately or the next morning. My wife had an operation that required a two day hospital visit and the care there was as good as anything I witnessed when my previous wife was in the hospital fighting (and lost) to cancer.

But no. Keep spouting how the rest of the world is wrong, it's better to have a for profit business make decisions concerning an expensive operation you need and keep defending the fact that people lose their homes and go into debt for the rest of their life thanks to medical bills.

You keep defending that.

Go you.

So you think that adding millions of new patients and no new doctors is going to make wait times shorter?

I think you should run the math and check your numbers. I'm not sure it adds up the way you think it does.

 

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Sounds to me like you are talking about the Iraq war


Most of the people that are bitching in this thread (bitching because they don't know how to read apparently) were the same people that supported Bush in regards to invading and occupying Iraq.

Their inconsistency in standards of evidence, inconsistency in financial manners, etc - proceeds them...

 

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A new report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office states that by 2016, Obamacare will result in 4 million people fewer people getting health insurance coverage from their employers.

The estimate is a vast increase from the CBO prediction just a year ago that 1 million would no longer obtain coverage from their employers. And it raises substantial questions about the veracity of one of Obama’s key pledges in selling the health care law – that everyone who wants to keep their current health insurance plan and doctor could do it.

 

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The price of healthcare is shooting up way faster since Obamacare passed than was expected before Obamacare passed.

I'm sure Libtards will blame that on Bush too.

 

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Link to "no new doctors" being added in the future?





Or we could just make shit up from thin air like you regularly do (and then whine about others making shit up from thin air without the remotest hint of irony).

 

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You want a link to the absence of something?

I think you should run your numbers again too.

 

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I want, just this once, for you to back up some of the bullshit you spew here.

ONE TIME DEALER!

 

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Many of the main rallying cries from the right against national health care are substandard care and wait times. They try to scare people with horror stories of systems that are doing it wrong.

My example wasn't meant to say that wait times would decrease in the future, just that things were better or equal in Spain.

You can spin that anyway you want Paul but our current system sucks and ranting against national health care is just idiotic.

My brother in law, who I like a great deal except for his RWN political views was telling me how his twins were preemies. He brought them home with a $600,000 bill. He said when this happens you just have to pay it off five dollars at a time.

Yeah, cause that's better than national health care...

He told me the hospital asked him to just keep paying what he could, called him up to get a payment plan set up and he did. He figured out it would be payed off by his daughters grandchildren.

Yeah, cause that's better than national health care...

So, he concluded we didn't need health care people could just pay it off slowly.

Um, welcome to 2012. Your preemie twins (who I love) were born 23 years ago. Hospitals today aren't going to let you pay five dollars a month.

So, five years of this goes by and he is offered to settle. So, see, everything worked out for the best because he only ended up paying like thirty grand total after the settlement.

Gee smart guy - who do you think paid off the off $500,000+? Would it be me who pays massive amounts of my paycheck for my health care?