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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Moe_Nox posted:

Gen McChrystal was the commanding general of forces in Afghanistan.

He was not an elected politician in D.C.

The fact that you cannot understand the differences between the two shows yet again that less than average Americans have their head up their ass on this issue.

Thanks for making a great example to underline my point.



And you think that means something?


He now is on the Board of Directors for a company called Navistar.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navistar


"The current record shows headquarter located in Warrenville, IL with employee size 250 - 499 and has annual revenue of $9.713 billion.


"Present day: Hybrids, Defense

International MaxxPro MRAPIn 2007, Navistar's International Truck and Engine Corporation is the first company to enter hybrid commercial truck production, with the International DuraStar Hybrid diesel-electric truck.[5]


Navistar is the prime supplier of MRAP armored vehicles to the US military. The Navistar 7000 series has been fielded by the Canadian Forces for domestic operations. In 2005, the US Army ordered 2900 7,000-MV for the Afghan National Army and Iraqi Ministry of Defense and an additional order of 7,000 was added in 2008."





Slow_Moe, man, you're dumb.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
Title: In Moe We Trust
Posts: 1,962
Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
I think its cute that you keep using that pet name that Montana_Mike came up with. He must have really meant something to you.

And I thought you served? I guess you didn't, for if you did you would have a clue about ex military taking jobs with what they are familiar with.
No different than if Rik takes some higher up job in avionics someday. Or any of the other OP veterans (actual veterans ) taking a leadership/ advisor role in a field they are intimately familiar with.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
Posts: 487
Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Moe_Nox posted:

I think its cute that you keep using that pet name that Montana_Mike came up with. He must have really meant something to you.


And I thought you served? I guess you didn't, for if you did you would have a clue about ex military taking jobs with what they are familiar with.

No different than if Rik takes some higher up job in avionics someday. Or any of the other OP veterans (actual veterans ) taking a leadership/ advisor role in a field they are intimately familiar with.



Actually, I'm intimately familiar with it. The point, lost upon you, is that your answer you provided earlier, that somehow being in the military and not an elected official, put him beyond reproach with regards to an extended war climate that benefits corporations. When in fact, he is relying upon an extended war climate to line his pockets.


Man, you're dumb.

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
Title: In Moe We Trust
Posts: 1,962
Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
SoBaKi posted:

He now is on the Board of Directors for a company called Navistar.

****
Navistar is the prime supplier of MRAP armored vehicles to the US military. The Navistar 7000 series has been fielded by the Canadian Forces for domestic operations. In 2005, the US Army ordered 2900 7,000-MV for the Afghan National Army and Iraqi Ministry of Defense and an additional order of 7,000 was added in 2008.


Did you want to double down on your stupid here, and declare him a time traveler?

1.21 GIGAWATTS!

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
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Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Moe_Nox posted:

Ashmaele posted:

Also, Obama explicitly stated that his decision to relieve McChrystal and replace him with Petraus had nothing whatsoever to do with strategy or tactics.

Holy shit you're an idiot. "BUT BUT BUT OBAMA SAID!




Let's see. On the one hand I have what the Administration said, which has not been refuted to my knowledge...and on the other hand I have What Moe Nox Said.

Hmm, who to believe??? A guy whose remark could be easily refuted by McChrystal himself, or a guy who claims to be a "moderate" on this board while spending 95% of his time whining about Obama and the Dems?


Moe_Nox posted:

Do some reading other than DailyKOS and the Outpost.



How about Fox News?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/23/mcchrystal-afghanistan-fate/

McChrystal asked for a surge, and he got one. Then he ran his mouth in front of a Rolling Stone reporter and got fired. Somehow that made all of Afghanistan hate us and it's all Obama's fault

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Moe_Nox posted:

SoBaKi posted:

He now is on the Board of Directors for a company called Navistar.


****

Navistar is the prime supplier of MRAP armored vehicles to the US military. The Navistar 7000 series has been fielded by the Canadian Forces for domestic operations. In 2005, the US Army ordered 2900 7,000-MV for the Afghan National Army and Iraqi Ministry of Defense and an additional order of 7,000 was added in 2008.



Did you want to double down on your stupid here, and declare him a time traveler?


1.21 GIGAWATTS!



I know you're stupid, I know this.


But just because I feel sorry for you....


http://www.navistar.com/Navistar/News/Newsroom#


"LISLE, Ill., March 15, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Navistar Defense, LLC received an award to conduct the installation work associated with its January order to upgrade 2,717 International® MaxxPro® Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles with a new vehicle chassis. The $21 million contract from the U.S. Army Contracting Command is just one of Navistar's many reset offerings aimed at revitalizing existing defense assets for future missions. "


http://www.navistar.com/Navistar/News/Newsroom#


"Navistar Defense, Indigen Armor and SAIC Team For SOCOM Ground Mobility Vehicle Program

Lisle, Ill. (February 8, 2012) Navistar Defense, LLC, Indigen Armor and SAIC today announced they will team for the upcoming U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) Ground Mobility Vehicle 1.1 (GMV 1.1) program.


The GMV 1.1 program requires a highly mobile, roll-off mission-ready platform that is transportable on a CH-47 helicopter. To support Special Operations (Specops) missions, each vehicle will be integrated with a full government furnished Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (C4ISR) suite. "


http://www.navistar.com/Navistar/News/Newsroom#


"Navistar Defense to Provide $110 Million In Enhancements to MaxxPro Vehicle Fleet

LISLE, Ill., Jan. 25, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Navistar Defense, LLC received a $110 million delivery order today to provide 650 independent suspension kits for International® MaxxPro® Plus Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles. The U.S. Marine Corps System Command order will enhance the mobility and survivability of earlier MaxxPro vehicles with the addition of the DXM independent suspension kits. "


etc, etc, etc...

 

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Eternal_Midnight  2 stars
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Do 200 marines need to have their weapons when they meet with SecDef?

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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Registered: 2007-2-4 12:17:56
Ashmaele posted:

McChrystal asked for a surge, and he got one. Then he ran his mouth in front of a Rolling Stone reporter and got fired. Somehow that made all of Afghanistan hate us and it's all Obama's fault

So you think he was pissed off with Obama for giving him exactly what he asked for?
indeed

 

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Vydor  1 star
Posts: 248
Registered: 2001-12-24 21:14:09
Eternal_Midnight posted:

Do 200 marines need to have their weapons when they meet with SecDef?



Don't know, but I think it's normal that they carry them when doing so. Evidently this has never happened before.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-2-26 09:31:13
Moe_Nox posted:

Ashmaele posted:

McChrystal asked for a surge, and he got one. Then he ran his mouth in front of a Rolling Stone reporter and got fired. Somehow that made all of Afghanistan hate us and it's all Obama's fault

So you think he was pissed off with Obama for giving him exactly what he asked for?

indeed



You've already been shown you have no idea what you're talking about.


Dig dummy, dig.

 

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