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Crackdoc  1 star
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Registered: 2005-10-7 12:55:29
EvilWookin posted:

You act as if homosexuals can't have children.



I didn't 'act' in any such way. I asked a question.

In response to your point that same-sex relationships can parent, then that would be a reason to allow them to wed.





edit: 'allow' might better be 'require'

 

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Moe_Nox  4 stars
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EvilWookin posted:

You act as if homosexuals can't have children.

No, they cannot have children. They can purchase children, steal children, they can even go to any street corner in southern Cali and rent Mexican children, but they cannot have children.

 

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Vydor  1 star
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vn_nnanji posted:

Now you go from dense and stupid to a constitutional lawyer.

What a crock. The constitution forbids discrimination. The only place that people like her (and you) can point to that makes this supposedly not applicable is the idea that the bible says same sex preference is evil and therefore it's ok to discriminate against someone because of who they want to sleep with.

You pretend that this is not addressed in the Constitution. False.
You pretend the bible's teachings allow discrimination because the constitution doesn't address that particular issue. False.

The Senator is free to her opinion. The Constitution supersedes her opinion. And yours.

I repeat.

The Church and State are separate for a reason.

Thank you for proving my point.



Nope, I wasn't breaking it down at all, just looking at it simply. She is telling the guy, she uses the bible to define marriage. The guys tells her to use the constitution , in which there is no definition. States define marriage differently, based on various views. It's not the constitution that defines it. His as a statement that was off the mark.

 

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SoBaKi  2 stars
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The point that it is not "defined" in the Constitution is the only point that is important.


Using anything, especially the bible, undermines the Constitution.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Gays should be allowed to marry, having said that marriage is a states rights issue and the feds should stay out.

 

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Allstarslacker  3 stars
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Moe_Nox posted:

EvilWookin posted:

You act as if homosexuals can't have children.

No, they cannot have children. They can purchase children, steal children, they can even go to any street corner in southern Cali and rent Mexican children, but they cannot have children.



They can care for and raise children.

There are a lot of kids out there who are going to spend the majority, if not all, of their childhood in foster care.

They would be far better off in a permanent home with two same sex parents that loved them.
SoBaKi  2 stars
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Allstarslacker posted:

Moe_Nox posted:

EvilWookin posted:

You act as if homosexuals can't have children.

No, they cannot have children. They can purchase children, steal children, they can even go to any street corner in southern Cali and rent Mexican children, but they cannot have children.



They can care for and raise children.


There are a lot of kids out there who are going to spend the majority, if not all, of their childhood in foster care.


They would be far better off in a permanent home with two same sex parents who loved them.



Additionally, as a result of the current push by conservatives to limit or remove abortion, there will no doubt be an huge influx of unwanted children needing homes.

 

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SoBaKi posted:

The point that it is not "defined" in the Constitution is the only point that is important.

And it's such a stupid point to make. Just change the Constitution, add a damn amendment. See how easy that was?

 

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Crackdoc  1 star
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Registered: 2005-10-7 12:55:29
Yukishiro1 posted:

It isn't so much about taxes. It's more about shared property. Are you suggesting we do away with the idea that the law recognizes married couples' income and assets are held jointly?

I mean you could do that all by contract but in point of fact it won't happen and you'll have tons of (mostly female) people who end up totally screwed when their higher-earning "spouse" dumps them when they get old and not so hot and they get nothing at all.



This is why women should have a dowry that can be retaken if divorced.


 

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Vydor  1 star
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Registered: 2001-12-24 21:14:09
SoBaKi posted:

The point that it is not "defined" in the Constitution is the only point that is important.

Using anything, especially the bible, undermines the Constitution.



-nods-

I am under the impression that same sex marriage is not legal in all 50 states, and that it is not defined by the constitution. That was the only reason I made my post. If the US Constitution does define marriage and makes it legal across then country the obviously I was wrong and the OP had a valid point.

 

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