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Has the notion of states outlived its usefulness in America? [Locked] |
Brother_Tempus  Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Has the notion of states outlived its usefulness in America? |
AzureTyger posted:
the_great_intex posted:
No. Not fiscally. I think fiscally wise micromanaging should be done at the state level. Now whether that happens in the federal government or the state government is another question. But there's a LOT of negatives to trying to fix problems with a broad sword
I think a great deal of laws should not be allowed -- and I personally think it is unconstitutional for the federal government to have the power -- to be passed at the federal level.
A lot of things about our 18th century constitution are stupid and sucky in a modern context,
Only if you are a believer of tyranny ... the Constitutional Republic and its message of freedom is one of the newest political frameworks in the world today.
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Sin_of_Onin  Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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It is getting to the point that changes are needed. For example the massive amount of money that goes from rich states to poor ones. This by itself doesn't seem too bad until you see the problems these "rich" states have with employing their poor. Newark and Bridgeport exist in the richest states for a reason. I think this tends to funnel too much money to poor states in an inefficient manner while not providing enough to the rich states.
There is also the matter of things like tax incentives for companies. As I have argued before this just undermines the tax authority of states and puts too much power in the hands of the state government to pick winners and losers. There is a need for them to invest in infrastructure but even that is partially addressed at the federal level.
States are also generally better at being the funding mechanism for schools than the local level or the federal level.
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Yukishiro1 posted:
He wants you to join him in a blood-soaked rampage against people he doesn't like because he thinks that will further the aims of freedom.
 Yeah that's going to happen.
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One
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Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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Has the notion of states outlived its usefulness in America? |
Brother_Tempus posted:
AzureTyger posted:
the_great_intex posted:
No. Not fiscally. I think fiscally wise micromanaging should be done at the state level. Now whether that happens in the federal government or the state government is another question. But there's a LOT of negatives to trying to fix problems with a broad sword
I think a great deal of laws should not be allowed -- and I personally think it is unconstitutional for the federal government to have the power -- to be passed at the federal level.
A lot of things about our 18th century constitution are stupid and sucky in a modern context,
Only if you are a believer of tyranny ... the Constitutional Republic and its message of freedom is one of the newest political frameworks in the world today.
You do know that changes can be made without changing those 2 basic messages? Jeebus, a first grader would know that.
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If centralized power is so good then why worry if someone like Santorum gets elected.
Idiots.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Has the notion of states outlived its usefulness in America? |
Kjarhall posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
AzureTyger posted:
the_great_intex posted:
No. Not fiscally. I think fiscally wise micromanaging should be done at the state level. Now whether that happens in the federal government or the state government is another question. But there's a LOT of negatives to trying to fix problems with a broad sword
I think a great deal of laws should not be allowed -- and I personally think it is unconstitutional for the federal government to have the power -- to be passed at the federal level.
A lot of things about our 18th century constitution are stupid and sucky in a modern context,
Only if you are a believer of tyranny ... the Constitutional Republic and its message of freedom is one of the newest political frameworks in the world today.
You do know that changes can be made without changing those 2 basic messages?
Only by going in the opposite direction the US has been heading the last 80 years
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Aerlinthian posted:
If centralized power is so good then why worry if someone like Santorum gets elected.
Because we don't like him.
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So what do you have in place of states?
Federal apointees over districts?
Whats the difference... at least with states most people still pay attention to whats happening in thier back yard.
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Sin_of_Onin Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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Actually I think it is probably getting to the point that districts make more sense than federal government.
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Lyken-P  Posts: 453
Registered: 2006-1-14 18:41:19
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