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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Israel has laws against jewish settlers claiming land in the occupied territories. So does the PA. What do I win?
paulg_68  4 stars
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Step 1: /fail

Nice try Yuki.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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I'm sorry you're too stupid to realize it's illegal no matter how you characterize the situation. Both Israel and Palestine have laws against unauthorized appropriation of land that is now occupied by Israel but owned by the PA.
paulg_68  4 stars
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And which of those countries does the land belong to? Either of them? If not then why would their laws matter?

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Yukishiro1 posted:

Both Israel and Palestine have laws against unauthorized appropriation of land that is now occupied by Israel but owned by the PA.



paulg_68 posted:

And which of those countries does the land belong to?



 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Ah, I misread. Thanks.

So Yuki says it's Palestinian land. Why don't the Palestinians just kick out the settlers and enforce their own sovereign rights?

Oh wait, now I remember. It's because Palestine isn't now nor has it ever been a sovereign state.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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But its not technically the palestinians land at all

 

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PhillsburyBandit  2 stars
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bstulic posted:

paulg_68 posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

Doesn't matter. That land belongs to someone


If you don't know who, then how do you know who has jurisdiction to make laws there about who can settle the land?

Step 1: Figure out whose land it is.
Step 2: Figure out if that state has a law against Jewish settlers.

Until you've completed both of those steps you don't really know if the settlements are illegal.





Paul is obviously a Jew, he uses same semantics to avoid the problem



 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

Ah, I misread. Thanks.


So Yuki says it's Palestinian land. Why don't the Palestinians just kick out the settlers and enforce their own sovereign rights?


Oh wait, now I remember. It's because Palestine isn't now nor has it ever been a sovereign state.






According to Yuki, it is against the law in Israel to seize these lands. These lands are owned by a known organization.


Are you arguing that because this organization isn't in itself a sovereign state, it has no rights to the land it owns? I wonder if you would also support Australia's expansion of their Antarctic territory? Maybe they could just pick up Adelie Island?

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Eager_Igraine posted:

According to Yuki, it is against the law in Israel to seize these lands.


What does Israeli law have to do with anything? Yuki says it's not their land. If that's the case then they don't have jurisdiction.

 

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