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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Registered: 2008-8-1 18:04:29
If the students actually knew the material they are being tested on wouldn't that do away with the need to teach them how to take a test?

 

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poetkiosk  2 stars
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__Bonk__ posted:

Standardized tests make teachers look bad. This is why teachers are against them





they can also make teachers look,good.

as for the overall discussion - this was not about Bush. to be honest Obama is just as wrong on education

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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They make many teachers look bad and this is why teachers unions and teachers are against them.

Teachers also do tricks grading in order to make themselves look better too. They dont care abgout kids in many cases. They only care about making themselves look better

Actually standardized tests make school administrators look bad too.

This is the truth of it. Many teachers are good and care about the kids but many dont like standardized tests because they make them look bad.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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Test scores can't be blamed totally all on teachers.

 

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poetkiosk  2 stars
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Nah most teachers come out looking average

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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Yet another reason why my kids go to a private school

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-11-21 11:55:52
Bonzoboy1 posted:

There should be math and reading but they should gear it towards the vocational fields, some may even need some advanced classes to meet their job goals. There is nothing wrong with education, we just need to change what some kids are taught.



Hmmm, are you suggesting then that prior to graduating high school, some kids should receive a different style of education? Do you have thoughts on the selection process for deciding which kids get which education?

 

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Friarspam  3 stars
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I'd suggest that there need to be basic core classes (like now) coupled with aptitude testing. That way the focus of the learning for the kids would be something they'd be interested in/good at.

Not everyone will follow the same path in life. I don't see where it's so bad if Little Timmy "has" to become a plumber. Have you had to hire one of those guys recently?

The idea of exit testing is a good one, as long as it's in generalized terms that can't be "clocked" by making kids study the test for a month.

 

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poetkiosk  2 stars
Title: Snail Hunter
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Friarspam posted:

I'd suggest that there need to be basic core classes (like now) coupled with aptitude testing. That way the focus of the learning for the kids would be something they'd be interested in/good at.

Not everyone will follow the same path in life. I don't see where it's so bad if Little Timmy "has" to become a plumber. Have you had to hire one of those guys recently?

The idea of exit testing is a good one, as long as it's in generalized terms that can't be "clocked" by making kids study the test for a month.



Good idea. Agree.

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Friar, I believe part of the problem is that taxpayers want proof they aren't wasting their money and parents want someone to blame for their children's failures. Government response to those pressures won't make education better, simply more and more centrally controlled and micro-managed. And it will cost more money and it won't increase the success of children.


The above is not a disagreement with your post, btw.

 

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