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paulg_68  4 stars
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Art is fun but generally pointless. Why don't we teach kids to play videogames instead? I bet grades would go up.

 

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Bonzoboy1  3 stars
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I'm not saying he can't read but it is very slow and difficult for him, his math skills are actually very good. My point is that if he had access to a good vocational school he might have been able to to become a boilermaker or ironworker and made better money.

 

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__Bonk__  5 stars
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Teachers are against exit test and standardized tests yet they fail to mention those tests are standard in parts of asia and in europe. And those kids are doing better than AMerican kids as a whole.

 

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Modeeb  4 stars
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It is a skill which deteriorates when the test is done. The test doesnt assess what it is supposed to. If you want to drink the test prep kool aid fine. But why couple it with excluding the arts? Lets face it. If you dont understand the arts you will not get it. I can work in an excruciating detail oriented profession because I am balanced in the arts.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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poetkiosk posted:

Yeah its turning acting into a dull affair. Students practice 3 scenarios over and over again because that's what is on the test.


You know that's what drama is right? You practice the script over and over because people expect you to be able to perform it.

 

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poetkiosk  2 stars
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they used to do a lot of improv and the students loved it. now they can hardly fill the classes.

 

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Eager_Igraine  4 stars
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Bonzoboy1 posted:

I'm not saying he can't read but it is very slow and difficult for him, his math skills are actually very good. My point is that if he had access to a good vocational school he might have been able to to become a boilermaker or ironworker and made better money.



Fair enough. I am certainly a supporter of more and better vocational school options. Would you agree that up to the high school level (grade 12), there should be some basic requirements for functional skill level in reading, math, etc.?

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
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If you have to teach them how to take a test, you aren't teaching them anything worth learning in their actual classes. Art and music are important for kids to learn, they utilize skills that aren't as apparent in other classes, build confidence, encourage innovation and creativity, and provide them with easily recognizable returns for their effort.

If you are teaching kids how to fill in a circle on a test form instead of encouraging creativity and building confidence in them...you are failing to prepare them for a meaningful life.
dae_trist  4 stars
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Eager_Igraine posted:

Bonzoboy1 posted:

I have a guy who works for me, can barely read, but he is an artist as a welder and I am lucky to have him. What is so bad about doing a skilled job and doing it well?



A fine point. I also wonder how life is for a skilled worker who can't read and/or understand enough basic math to take care of their personal finances. Your worker is certainly lucky you aren't cheating him. How would he know?



That's why people should be taught how to manage their expenses starting in grade school.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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poetkiosk posted:

they used to do a lot of improv and the students loved it. now they can hardly fill the classes.


So why don't you lobby for improv to be be added to the test?

Oh that's right, you don't care about improving things. You just want to bitch about Bush.

Carry on.

 

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