Yukishiro1 posted:
Cawlin posted:
I was going to post about this (bold part) myself but chose not to. Since you opened that can of worms though I will chime in and say that yes, you miss out on 2 years of the "college experience" - and to be honest - I think that's a good thing nowadays. The "college experience" at $45k a year doesn't seem to be worth it, all things considered.
I don't disagree. The "college experience" is a luxury you pay a huge premium for. Depending on your finances, that may not be worth it. For most middle class kids it probably isn't.
And honestly, it's always been that way. Fancy private 4 year colleges have always been about "the college experience" and not about actually learning stuff. Throughout 95% of human history university education has been something for rich kids who don't need to support themselves.
These days it is for rich kids for don't need to support themselves and anyone else willing to take out big loans.
I have a hard time seeing that as a step backwards.
The real problem is not that fancy private 4 year colleges cost an arm and a leg. The real problem is that the more afforable options - state colleges and community colleges - are getting cut out of existance by neanderthal state legislatures that can't think more than five minutes into the future.
Yeah, but again, the relative expense from even 20 years ago to now is just not the same either... note that even a "fancy private school" which I went to (which was 30% less than most "fancy private schools"

cost about what a new car cost per year... now that's more than doubled.
To contrast - Penn State was ~$7k/year in 1988, it's now up over $18k which is still absurd, but less than the relative increases in "private schools" and about on par with my whole car benchmark cost analogy.
I was one of those kids who took out big loans, took me around 10 years to pay them off, which is all relative of course. However, if I went to school today and instead of borrowing like $30k, I was borrowing $150k, it would take me a hell of a lot longer than 10 years to pay it off...
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