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Brother_Tempus  Title: Patriot
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Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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-Espiritu- posted:
when the gubmint pays for something, the price goes up. 
this .. But don't worry, just like housing prices. .. The bubble will pop and then it will soon be afordable again
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Cawlin  Posts: 1,759
Registered: 2005-2-22 07:58:42
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$23k in financial aid and they still want another $18k a year |
Yukishiro1 posted:
Seething199 posted:
but the level of education is dramatically lower [at community colleges]
I don't think this is true at all as a rule. In a lot of cases community college classes are smaller so you get more one on one time. I'm not at all sure an introductory class taught by a community college professor to 15 students is worse than an introductory class taught by an uninterested 4 year college professor to 90 students.
The big difference is social, not educational. By going the community college route you miss out on the first 2 years of the 4 year college experience.
I was going to post about this (bold part) myself but chose not to. Since you opened that can of worms though I will chime in and say that yes, you miss out on 2 years of the "college experience" - and to be honest - I think that's a good thing nowadays. The "college experience" at $45k a year doesn't seem to be worth it, all things considered.
When I was going to college, it cost about as much as, or a little less than a new car cost per year to go. Now it costs about twice what the same new car costs per year to go...
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Date Posted:
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Have her join the military and get some GI bill money. She gets to support wars idiots like you champion and gets free money for college. It's a win win situation!
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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$23k in financial aid and they still want another $18k a year |
Brother_Tempus posted:
-Espiritu- posted:
when the gubmint pays for something, the price goes up.
this .. But don't worry, just like housing prices. .. The bubble will pop and then it will soon be afordable again
You're doubling down on the stupid.
One of the major reasons that state college tuitions are increasing is because states are cutting funding to state colleges.
Then again, it isn't "states" which were funding at higher levels than now, it's taxpayers. So taxpayers are actually not funding higher education at levels they used to osomethe.
And then people are complaining about tuition going up. Because they have to have it both ways.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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$23k in financial aid and they still want another $18k a year |
Ashmaele posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
-Espiritu- posted:
when the gubmint pays for something, the price goes up.
this .. But don't worry, just like housing prices. .. The bubble will pop and then it will soon be afordable again
You're doubling down on the stupid.
One of the major reasons that state college tuitions are increasing is because states are cutting funding to state colleges.
Then again, it isn't "states" which were funding at higher levels than now, it's taxpayers. So taxpayers are actually not funding higher education at levels they used to osomethe.
And then people are complaining about tuition going up. Because they have to have it both ways.
you denial, is very painful to watch
anyways, student loans [Sallie Mae ], hit $1 trillion ..... All theat taxpayer money just pumping up those prices because after all .. It's cheap money which just gets cheaper and cheaper the more Helicopter Ben cranks the printing press
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reesescups Title: //Captain America
Posts: 2,537
Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
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$23k in financial aid and they still want another $18k a year |
Brother_Tempus posted:
Ashmaele posted:
You're doubling down on the stupid.
One of the major reasons that state college tuitions are increasing is because states are cutting funding to state colleges.
Then again, it isn't "states" which were funding at higher levels than now, it's taxpayers. So taxpayers are actually not funding higher education at levels they used to osomethe.
And then people are complaining about tuition going up. Because they have to have it both ways.
you denial, is very painful to watch
There is definitely something painful going on and it's got nothing to do with what Ashmaele is saying...
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Date Posted:
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$23k in financial aid and they still want another $18k a year |
i wouldn't trade my college time up for anything. it was a great experience. living at home and going to community college would be tragic compared to that.
community college is fine for gen ed classes. english 101 is going to be about the same and dipshit math for humanities majors will be the same. but i'd finished vector calculus, differential equations, solid state chemistry, transport phenomena, physical chemistry, etc, by the end of my second year in school (was the standard curriculum). you're not getting that at a community college, obviously.
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Ashmaele Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
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$23k in financial aid and they still want another $18k a year |
Brother_Tempus posted:
Ashmaele posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
-Espiritu- posted:
when the gubmint pays for something, the price goes up.
this .. But don't worry, just like housing prices. .. The bubble will pop and then it will soon be afordable again
You're doubling down on the stupid.
One of the major reasons that state college tuitions are increasing is because states are cutting funding to state colleges.
Then again, it isn't "states" which were funding at higher levels than now, it's taxpayers. So taxpayers are actually not funding higher education at levels they used to osomethe.
And then people are complaining about tuition going up. Because they have to have it both ways.
you denial, is very painful to watch
anyways, student loans [Sallie Mae ], hit $1 trillion ..... All theat taxpayer money just pumping up those prices because after all .. It's cheap money which just gets cheaper and cheaper the more Helicopter Ben cranks the printing press
I never said that the proliferation of student loans and the increase in student population do not play a role (hence my use of the phrase "one of the major reasons...." Obviously basic market forces are also at work. But to deny that state funding has not been cut in nearly every state and that those costs have to be borne by SOMEONE is not only absurd it is factually inaccurate.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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$23k in financial aid and they still want another $18k a year |
Cawlin posted:
I was going to post about this (bold part) myself but chose not to. Since you opened that can of worms though I will chime in and say that yes, you miss out on 2 years of the "college experience" - and to be honest - I think that's a good thing nowadays. The "college experience" at $45k a year doesn't seem to be worth it, all things considered.
I don't disagree. The "college experience" is a luxury you pay a huge premium for. Depending on your finances, that may not be worth it. For most middle class kids it probably isn't.
And honestly, it's always been that way. Fancy private 4 year colleges have always been about "the college experience" and not about actually learning stuff. Throughout 95% of human history university education has been something for rich kids who don't need to support themselves.
These days it is for rich kids for don't need to support themselves and anyone else willing to take out big loans.
I have a hard time seeing that as a step backwards.
The real problem is not that fancy private 4 year colleges cost an arm and a leg. The real problem is that the more afforable options - state colleges and community colleges - are getting cut out of existance by neanderthal state legislatures that can't think more than five minutes into the future.
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Lyken-P  Posts: 453
Registered: 2006-1-14 18:41:19
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$23k in financial aid and they still want another $18k a year |
This bubble deserves to pop.
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