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Blue_arrow  2 stars
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http://www.kitv.com/Pickups-powered-by-natural-gas-and-gasoline/-/8906042/9221618/-/8yd3ph/-/index.html


General Motors and Chrysler Group are about to start selling full-size pickups that can seamlessly switch back and forth between natural gas and gasoline.

The trucks have two tanks, and drivers can choose which fuel they want to use; if they run out of one, the vehicle automatically switches to the other.

The ability to run on either fuel is an important step for winning over new customers who might be interested in the cost savings from the significantly cheaper compressed natural gas (CNG) but worry about running out of fuel and not finding a compatible station, said Joyce Mattman, director of commercial product and specialty vehicles for GM.

There are only about 1,000 fueling stations across the country that sell CNG, with roughly half of those open to the general public. But despite the limited CNG stations, almost all the natural gas vehicles sold in the U.S. are CNG-only due to tax breaks that weren't available for bi-fuel vehicles, said Richard Kolodziej, president of Natural Gas Vehicles for America, an industry trade group.

Because of that, there were only 112,000 CNG vehicles on U.S. roads at the end of 2010, the most recent figure available. And a large percentage are heavy-duty vehicles that return to a base each night to refuel, such as city buses, delivery trucks or garbage trucks.

The cost savings of using CNG instead of gasoline is marked. The amount of CNG that is equivalent to a gallon of gasoline now sells for between $1.50 to $2 less than a gallon of regular gasoline. And with growing and abundant supplies cutting natural gas prices, coupled with rising gasoline prices, that gap could grow even larger in the years ahead, saving drivers using CNG thousands of dollars a year.

The CNG vehicles, whether pure CNG or bi-fuel, cost more than their gasoline-only counterparts. Kolodziej's group is pushing for a new tax break to help buyers of both kinds of CNG vehicles with the cost premium. But GM and Chrysler are planning to go ahead with their vehicles whether or not the tax incentive passes, due to the growing demand from businesses looking to save on operating costs.

Both companies' vehicles will lose some of the cargo space in their beds to the CNG tank. But both will be able to carry the same cargo, by weight, and have equal towing capacity as a gas version of the pickup


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reesescups  4 stars
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I'm a bit confused. Are you saying it's a bad thing to have vehicles that can run on either? IF so, why?

 

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Blue_arrow  2 stars
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reesescups posted:

I'm a bit confused. Are you saying it's a bad thing to have vehicles that can run on either? IF so, why?



i though it was cool

 

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Blue_arrow  2 stars
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http://socaltrucks.com/2011/10/natural-gas-powered-ford-f-250/

Westport Innovations, the global leader in natural gas engines announced today that the new natural gas Westport WiNG™ Power System (WiNG™) will be available in the popular Ford F-250 and F-350 Super Duty pickup trucks sold and serviced through authorized Ford dealers. The F-250 and F-350 pickup trucks, based on Ford’s new 6.2L hardened engine platform, can also run on ordinary gasoline and offer unparalleled drivability. As part of the product launch with Ford Super Duty Pickup Trucks, Westport LD has unveiled the new WiNG™ system, an advanced, integrated, bi-fuel system for passenger and commercial vehicles targeting fleet customers.

“The WiNG™ system is specifically designed to deliver best-in-class performance, reliability and efficiency,” noted John Lapetz, Managing Director, North American Vehicle Programs at Westport LD. “Our customers will benefit from the best natural gas technology in the industry along with the confidence and quality of the Ford name and the strength of their dealer network.”


The Ford F-250 and F-350 pickups with the bi-fuel Westport WiNGâ„¢ Power System have undergone the same rigorous Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) testing for safety and durability required for all OEM products. The F-250 and F-350 pickup trucks are expected to ship in the second quarter of 2012.

For more information on the natural gas Ford pickup trucks and the Westport WiNGâ„¢ Power System, go to www.westport-ld.com.

SoCal SAYS: Can you believe it? A natural gas powered full-size truck! This truck will get almost 2x as many miles per tank (600 miles) compared to a gas powered F250. Not only that, but natural gas is cheaper than oil, so you could reduce you gas bill by 30-40% with a natural gas powered engine. Way to go Westport.

 

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reesescups  4 stars
Title: //Captain America
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Registered: 2003-5-26 14:45:53
Vehicles have been using natural gas in other parts of the world for decades...


I'm glad congress/white house finally lifted the ban on them here.

 

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paulg_68  4 stars
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Why on earth would it need a tax incentive?

 

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Blue_arrow  2 stars
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i want to know where is my GD natural gas 24 foot outboard bass boat !!!

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ineenia  2 stars
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paulg_68 posted:

Why on earth would it need a tax incentive?





They are competing against big oil and all the tax incentives and outright giveaways the republicans have given to big oil.

 

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Thugoneous  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-11-2 18:00:54
Military bases and buses have had vehicles that run on natural gas for a while.

They shake a lot.

 

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Grymlo  2 stars
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Sounds like it could be pretty dangerous on the roads with some idiot drivers out there. Whats the potential for explosions or leaks that could lead to explosions on these types of vehicles anyways?

 

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