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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
Title: Patriot
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theredkay1 posted:

Brother_Tempus posted:

theredkay1 posted:

The real big government success are the Clean Air Act. The cost of implementing these rules were large. The benefits however are mind-boggling.



The costs were large. Cant we just ignore the benefits? Its easier that way.



Not really.



The road to hell/tyranny is paved with such good intentions like the ones you are trying promote

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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The war on good intentions continues.

 

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theredkay1  3 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

theredkay1 posted:

The Founders posted:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare (except for kids being killed by magic ice boxes, that power is withheld) of the United States.



Most people miss the invisible ink portions of the Constitution.



NOTME! I SEE IT CLEARLY WITH MY INVISOGOLD GLASSES!






What exactly would general welfare mean if we are excluding being killed by private enterprises drive for profits?
theredkay1  3 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

Hell is a place where we have the ability to choose life over a potential profit opportunity for an individual. BE AFRAID!



sounds awful.


I guess your utopia is....Somalia?
Tych2  4 stars
Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
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Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
Brother_Tempus posted:

Tych2 posted:

Brother_Tempus posted:

no, we are a Constitutional Republic, which means government is granted limted pwers by the Constitution, not the people. So if it is not listed in the Constitution, than government is not allowed to do it

The Founders understood the perils and flaws with Democracy

Change the Constitution. We've done it before.



You're to slow, we already addressed this. Please keep up

Hey I am busy here working. I decide when to fit you in. Stop being butthurt because you are fringe. Accept it and move on.

 

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Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

The war on good intentions continues.



As long as those good intentions comes at the cost of life, liberty, and property of the individual w/o consent .. The battle will continue

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

The war on good intentions continues.



As long as those good intentions comes at the cost of life, liberty, and property of the individual w/o consent .. The battle will continue



So it is not actually good intentions that you are worried about. I didn't think so.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Brother_Tempus posted:

The battle will continue



Brother_Tempus  3 stars
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Sin_of_Onin posted:

Brother_Tempus posted:

Sin_of_Onin posted:

The war on good intentions continues.



As long as those good intentions comes at the cost of life, liberty, and property of the individual w/o consent .. The battle will continue



So it is not actually good intentions that you are worried about.



nope just the cost and the lack of consent .. That's why the free market works, it requires consent and the environment of competition to produce the best solution

 

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Sin_of_Onin  4 stars
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The free market is largely a contest between those who own the means of production and those who produce. Capitalism is based off the premise that those who own the means of production dictate to those who don't.


The idea that this produces the "best" result is naive and ignorant. It produces results that are best for those who own the means of production because that it what it is set up to do.

 

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