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Brother_Tempus  Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Date Posted:
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theredkay1 posted:
The real big government success are the Clean Air Act
Yes, quite the success ... A lot of jobs went overseas, the poor saw prices for energy and goods rise as businesses that did not or could mot go overseas transferred the costs incurred to meet compliance to their customers
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Kjarhall Title: The Pungent One
Posts: 915
Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
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Date Posted:
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Tych2 posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
theredkay1 posted:
How much?
Ask Groucho, this is his thread, the fact that government had no authority to regulate refrigerators has not even been addressed yet
The government has the authority the majority of the citizens give them
no, we are a Constitutional Republic, which means government is granted limted pwers by the Constitution, not the people. So if it is not listed in the Constitution, than government is not allowed to do it
The Founders understood the perils and flaws with Democracy
The people can change the Constitution. Therefore the citizens give the gov't their authority. Even dumb ones like you.
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Sin_of_Onin  Posts: 1,307
Registered: 2005-6-29 08:21:12
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
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Brother_Tempus posted:
Sin_of_Onin posted:
The Founding Father's owned slaves.
your point is what? Other than erecting a strawman?
I was demonstrating the problems with appealing to authority.
Since your entire position involves you making an appeal to an authority (that you don't even understand) it is worth pointing out IMO.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
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theredkay1 posted:
The Founders posted:
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare (except for kids being killed by magic ice boxes, that power is withheld) of the United States.
Most people miss the invisible ink portions of the Constitution.
like you
The rest of the statement in the Constitution where individuals like Red deliberately omit
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States or in any Department or Officer thereof
So taxation for powers granted to government by the Constitution [ not the people ] while still immoral, is legal
However for legislation like the Clean Air Act which is not granted to the government by the Constitution, not only is the legislation illegal but so is the taxation to fund it
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Date Posted:
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Kjarhall posted:
people can change the Constitution. Therefore the citizens give the gov't their authority. Even dumb ones like you.
They sure can, Article V, tells everyone how to do it. But since I don't see refrigerators it clean air I. The Constitution, those acts by Congress are illegal
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Tych2 Title: Obama Appointed Outpost Czar
Posts: 2,511
Registered: 2005-3-1 06:56:47
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Date Posted:
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Brother_Tempus posted:
no, we are a Constitutional Republic, which means government is granted limted pwers by the Constitution, not the people. So if it is not listed in the Constitution, than government is not allowed to do it
The Founders understood the perils and flaws with Democracy
 Change the Constitution. We've done it before.
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
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Groucho48 posted:
So people got upset about this, as Americans are wont to do when children die and are American
That bit cracked me up because it's so true.
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theredkay1 Posts: 611
Registered: 2008-5-16 10:37:09
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
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Brother_Tempus posted:
theredkay1 posted:
The real big government success are the Clean Air Act. The cost of implementing these rules were large. The benefits however are mind-boggling.
The costs were large. Cant we just ignore the benefits? Its easier that way.
Not really.
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Brother_Tempus Title: Patriot
Posts: 985
Registered: 2001-1-9 08:07:00
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Date Posted:
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Subject:
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Tych2 posted:
Brother_Tempus posted:
no, we are a Constitutional Republic, which means government is granted limted pwers by the Constitution, not the people. So if it is not listed in the Constitution, than government is not allowed to do it
The Founders understood the perils and flaws with Democracy
Change the Constitution. We've done it before.
You're to slow, we already addressed this. Please keep up
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Yukishiro1 Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
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Date Posted:
1/1/00 12:00am
Subject:
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Sin_of_Onin posted:
Actually if you believe it will take litigation then you basically want the more costly course of action in terms of lives lost, cost to government, cost to producers, and cost to consumers.
Congrats on being an idiot.
No kidding. People who think litigation is a good, cost-effective way to cure societal problems are mouthbreathers and what is wrong with America.
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