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vn_nnanji  4 stars
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Registered: 2001-6-30 17:22:56
I'm not afraid of most 17 year olds now. When I was Zimmerman's age?

a 140 lb kid?

Wigger please.

Then again I'm not out "protecting" your neighborhood with a loaded firearm am I?

 

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Ashmaele  4 stars
Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
vn_nnanji posted:

Give Cabby time. He'll think of another excuse.



It's really incredible. I have more respect for Cabby as a poster here than most anyone else (which is saying like literally nothing but still) and I just don't get why he is so hell bent on declaring Zimmerman 100% completely innocent and the shooting 100% completely justified. It's almost like he's trolli...

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
I haven't followed this case at all. It just depresses me and any chance of any reliable information about it coming out is almost nil at this point.

All I know is:

A kid got shot and killed
The guy who shot him was following him even after told not to do so
The dead kid wasn't armed
The guy who shot him, obviously, was
The dead kid was checked for drugs and booze
The shooter wasn't
The kid didn't have drugs or booze in his system
Cops on the scene decided the shooter had a legal right to kill the kid

That's it. I don't know crap about whether or not the kid attacked the shooter, whether that possible attack injured the shooter, whether or not the shooter was drunk or drugged up at the time, really nothing about how the actual killing took place other than an unarmed kid was shot and killed by some guy who followed him, against police orders, and in doing so.....initiated the crisis which resulted in one dead kid and one guy who killed him.

Based upon only that information, I can only conclude that the shooter is clearly an asshole who created this entire horrible situation by following a kid when he was told not to do so. Maybe that isn't illegal in Florida....but it sure as hell should be.
Ashmaele  4 stars
Title: Pastor of Muppets
Posts: 1,809
Registered: 2002-1-15 08:30:50
Ptilk posted:

A kid got shot and killed



True dat


Ptilk posted:

The guy who shot him was following him even after told not to do so



My gut tells me yes, but there is not yet any proof of this of which I am aware. GZ said "okay" after the 911 operator told him "We don't need you to do that" but it is not clear (unless new evidence has surfaced) that he failed to comply.


Ptilk posted:

The dead kid wasn't armed
The guy who shot him, obviously, was
The dead kid was checked for drugs and booze
The shooter wasn't



Yes yes yes yes


Ptilk posted:

The kid didn't have drugs or booze in his system



True


Ptilk posted:

Cops on the scene decided the shooter had a legal right to kill the kid



Not true, the lead investigator wanted GZ charged with manslaughter, he was (apparently) overruled by superiors and/or the SA's office.


Ptilk posted:

the shooter is clearly an asshole



No doubt. The 911 calls by themselves indicate this.

 

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Ptilk  4 stars
Title: Creepy old pirate
Posts: 2,359
Registered: 2002-2-13 14:52:58
OK, fair enough. Should have stated he wasn't charged, not the cops didn't want to charge him

Only reason I followed even the tiny bit that I have of this story is I was arrested in Sanford a long time ago. Used to date a woman who attended Seminole Community College and lived right off Lake Mary BLVD and we went skinny dipping in lake Minnie one night.
Kjarhall  3 stars
Title: The Pungent One
Posts: 915
Registered: 2002-3-1 15:47:21
Apparently the medical facilities in Florida also have full laundry service with fast dryers, therefore the video proves nothing.

It's pretty obvious that he looks like he was just in a fight that involved his life being in danger.


Oh yeah, forgot this:

 

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Grymlo  2 stars
Posts: 415
Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
This vid is pretty irrelevant unless we know the time difference between his ER stay and this vid. ALL injured assault victims are taken to the ER and may spend hours there to get cleaned up, new clothes if family brings it in and observation when head injuries are involved.

Peroxide and some 4x4s will clean up blood very nicely. If you ever need to remove blood from clothes just use some peroxide as well.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Posts: 1,211
Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
If anyone really believed that his nose was broken before seeing this (well, other than some of the Drudge-reading mouth breathers here), you probably don't understand how the media works.

That said, there's no indication here whether there was a struggle or not, if the existence of a struggle is part of your defense for Zimmerman / support for Martin.

 

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ZigmundZag  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-3-25 23:03:00
Grymlo posted:

This vid is pretty irrelevant unless we know the time difference between his ER stay and this vid. ALL injured assault victims are taken to the ER and may spend hours there to get cleaned up, new clothes if family brings it in and observation when head injuries are involved.

Peroxide and some 4x4s will clean up blood very nicely. If you ever need to remove blood from clothes just use some peroxide as well.

Everything I've read on this indicates that Martin received medical attention on the scene before being taken to the police station. He wasn't transported to the ER. Not that it makes much of a difference unless you were really buying into the "broken nose/bashed head" line that was being fed through various sources.

 

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Grymlo  2 stars
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Registered: 2002-4-30 05:51:06
You clearly dont understand how a broken nose can work if he spent a few hours in the ER prior to that vid. Anyone have a timeline yet?

 

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