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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Walker_ID posted:

I saw a mexican nuke a burrito in juarez once, therefore your statement is wrong!



Oh, Chief.
GrilledCheez  4 stars
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
Well I can't speak for everyone else, but here's what I think your strawmen are:


Americans say we would never nuke anyone except japan

Americans were fine with countries using nukes until other countries got them

the only reason we didn't use nukes is because other people had them


The first two are especially funny because they contradict each other. The third one wouldn't be a strawman by itself but the arguments you use to support it are. I don't really care that you assign asinine arguments to your opponents but don't act like you do. in yoru case you even say "THEY SAY THIS!" Which is pretty much a textbook strawman. Usually it's a little more nuanced than that, so I am surprised you are arguing you aren't making a strawman. but whatever. I know words are hard for you.

 

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cabbyman  2 stars
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Registered: 2003-1-6 07:48:53
Yukishiro1 posted:

It's funny how easily upset Americans get when people point out America is the only country that ever nuked anybody.



You think that's a point of anger for us?

That ain't anger mister. That's pride!

We got sucker punched. Then we stood up and completely annihilated our attacker.

IT. WAS. GLORIOUS!

 

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Clackdor  1 star
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Registered: 2001-9-21 12:10:52
Yuki, your conclusion is one of many that fit the available facts.

For example, consider the fact that nobody knew how devastating the effects of atomic radiation actually were. You can just as validly say that the US didn't drop any more bombs because they decided after that nobody else since deserved that kind of torture.

 

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Mastara posted:

Yes I am a fundie.



You didn't need to post that diatribe. I already knew what you were. We aren't having a debate and I am not seeking validation for my opinion. You are what you are and admitted so. Own it.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
GrilledCheez posted:

Americans say we would never nuke anyone except japan



I was just trying to understand your position. You did say maybe the reason Japan got nuked was because no one else has ever done anything bad enough. Many people in this thread did seem to be saying America wouldn't have nuked anyone else even if no other countries had got nukes.


GrilledCheez posted:

Americans were fine with countries using nukes until other countries got them



That doesn't even make sense. It seems like you typed something wrong.


GrilledCheez posted:

the only reason we didn't use nukes is because other people had them



That isn't a straw man, as you yourself admit.
Mastara  4 stars
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GrilledCheez  4 stars
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Registered: 2006-3-22 11:06:32
Yukishiro1 posted:

Nuclear weapons didn't become something that was unacceptable to use until other people got them.



I also think there is something wrong with that statement. I'll let the author defend it.

 

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Yukishiro1  4 stars
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Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
Clackdor posted:

Yuki, your conclusion is one of many that fit the available facts.


For example, consider the fact that nobody knew how devastating the effects of atomic radiation actually were. You can just as validly say that the US didn't drop any more bombs because they decided after that nobody else since deserved that kind of torture.



Well, if there was any documentary evidence to support it. But there isn't as far as I know. The U.S. government knew all about radiation sickness from atomic bombs by 1950 when we were in Korea. But as we've all established here we were seriously considering using the bomb in Korea.
Yukishiro1  4 stars
Posts: 3,243
Registered: 2002-9-20 23:52:57
GrilledCheez posted:

Yukishiro1 posted:

Nuclear weapons didn't become something that was unacceptable to use until other people got them.



I also think there is something wrong with that statement. I'll let the author defend it.



Yeah we've been over that. As far as I can tell, you think I'm wrong and that nuclear weapons are still considered acceptable to use.


That's just a disagreement, not a straw man.

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